Nanna2 I think it has to be 6 now though
Sometimes it’s just the small things that press the bruise isn’t it? 😢
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Nanna2 I think it has to be 6 now though
We had planned a celebration for 10. So now booking 2 separate tables x5 in restaurant. They have agreed to put them At least 2metres apart.
Just a thought.
Come on now, SpecialK!
You are not supposed to think.
You know, if it was children under twelve don't count, some people would be posting that their grandchild has only just had their 13th birthday and how unfair it is ?
In the beginning of this pandemic, they predicated a sharp spike in the Autumn, so I'm not sure why anyone's surprised by it.
Yes, it is as predicted, unfortunately.
Just a thought. Once children are tucked up and fast asleep in bed upstairs for the night; does that mean parents with 3 or 4 children can then entertain friends or relatives up to the maximum 6 people downstairs as the children clearly wouldn't be socialising with them
Why can't we follow Scotland s example. No more than 6 to meet in a house but children under 12 don't count in the total. This would make life so much better for families more than 2 children.
NfkDumpling
It looks like Ms Sturgeon waited to see the reaction of Boris' pronouncement and has sensibly adapted it to exclude children under twelve. Hopefully Mr J will follow suit shortly. It's silly that at the moment in England newborn counts towards the quota of six (or have I got that wrong?)
I agree, children under 12 should not be included in the rule of 6....
that would make large groups of teenagers, young people having raves, parties, large gatherings, saturday night drink fests easier to spot and break up. Whilst leaving smaller family groups safe and happy.
In the beginning of this pandemic, they predicated a sharp spike in the Autumn, so I'm not sure why anyone's surprised by it.
In Scotland's new rules, under 12s do not count in the six people limit.
I have a sneaking feeling that I’m going to count our three Gdcs as two. The 2 elder are still small and the baby of 8 months is usually firmly attached to dd anyway, so they only count as one unit, don’t they? ?
We have 4 adult children and 3 grandchildren. The rule of 6 means we can not see them all over Christmas as they usually all come to stay. We will have to choose one set of parents/grandchildren.
I think the angst about Christmas in September when we are confronting a worrying rise in Covid infections is misplaced. Let’s deal with the current situation by accepting the rules and we might even be able to think about next year more positively. We have seen our AC and their families once this year and doubt if we will see them again and yes, it is painful, but with luck we will be here to enjoy them next year.
It looks like Ms Sturgeon waited to see the reaction of Boris' pronouncement and has sensibly adapted it to exclude children under twelve. Hopefully Mr J will follow suit shortly. It's silly that at the moment in England newborn counts towards the quota of six (or have I got that wrong?)
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Stop worrying about Christmas. By the time Father Christmas has done his 14 days isolation between each country it will be 2025 and hopefully we’ll have a successful vaccine.
On a serious note I agree with Grandad, Growstuff and others. Let’s make whatever sacrifices we have to for the greater good and it will all be over much sooner.
Our bubble consist of DH, DS and I who live together, DD and partner, plus DGSx2 we have been in this bubble for weeks. We've not had any other visitors or been to anyones house, pub or restaurant.
We will not be changing this.
There are 3 of us at home so other son, wife and 2 GC will not all be able to visit together. Personally I feel those of us who obeyed the rules are being penalised while those who bent them are still being allowed to go to pubs etc. Have never understood how you are at less risk from strangers and more at risk from those who care about you and would never put you at risk.
If I’ve fully understood the Scottish govt update today, Scotland will now have the 6 person from 2 household rule imposed. However, children under 12 will not be counted in the total.
Nannan2
Also theres too many different rules for 4 countries in what are supposed to be a united kingdom! ONE set of rules for ALL four countries(England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales) is what we need, and what we SHOULD have!How are we possibly united?Then we should unite, and ALL be same, or be four separate countries if they all want different rules & different laws & different benefits etc.
I agree Nannan2
I was already nervous about seeing the GC because they’re back at school. I had them overnight weekend before last and it was wonderful, I love having them. But I won’t be risking my life to do it again anytime soon.
Luckily it doesn't affect us at the moment.
We still operate as a bubble with one DS and his family, so there are only five of us altogether, though hopefully we could include my elderly DM should this rule is still be in place at Christmas (though she would have to isolate first, as she has stopped shielding and is now starting to go out again, unlike the rest of us). They are the only people who have been in our house for over six months!
We haven't met with our other son and family since lockdown came in, and as they are now socialising again with other families - plus the dgc are back in school - we would have continued to stay away from them even if the rule of six hadn't been introduced.
Honestly....I think something needed to be said because too many people were congregating in large groups. I believe if only people had limited their socialising and kept the distance, nothing else would have been needed. Our extended family won’t meet at the same time (but only did once anyway, since March) so it won’t make much difference. We will work round it and see each other at separate times, even though it will involve much travelling. As for Christmas...it’s like listening to children. I would say, get past it...it’s not the end of the world if it’s a bit different this year. All of this and yet, I don’t agree with the way the government has handled this. I’m prepared to go along with it though, so that they get the figures they want and our freedom is restored sooner rather than later. I feel like I’m in the minority though.
Does anyone know if it affect travelling on buses?? If it does surely the bus companies will be running at a huge loss. I am getting so confused by all the rules that keep changing. I just try to be careful, masks, hands and SD but i dont understand about the 'bubble' thingy. When we had lock down i knew where i was but obviously that couldnt be long term. Sad and confusing times for the future history books for sure.
Rosiehaha I fully agree with your comment, groups of 8 or 10 would make much more sense for family groups. How can 7 or 8 family members who see each other all the time be more of a risk than 6 people from 6 different families. We have formed a family bubble of 7 and are pretty much together 24/7 apart from when we go to sleep in 2 different houses and yet from Monday they are saying only 6 of us can be together. Just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense but then that could be said of many decisions made recently
My daughter and dh have 2 children. We will not be able them with my son while he is staying with us as that will make 7. Feel bit grumpy about it when i see crowded pubs and beaches. Feel families who have been taking sensible precautions are penalised in favour of pubs being open
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