The new rules for coronavirus - how will it affect your family?

Nanan2 if both MIL’s are in one existing and ongoing support bubble it’s ok, if it’s just a Christmas visit for one or both, it isn’t.

It doesn't concern me - it reassures me.
Our little family wont be affected. The only difference is my walking club will have to keep doing walks for 6 max. We had just started to plan more open walks.

For me, it is not so much the announcement that is the issue but the fact that all my immediate and extended family (and friends) have differing, often valid, strong views in relation to 'the rules'.
I am really struggling with the judgemental, divisive and often argumentative approach that is resulting from this situation. I hate that there is finger pointing and naming of different individuals, or groups that are seen to be at fault for causing the spread and that people are forced into making choices within families.
Yes, it is difficult - but is difficult for everyone. No-one knows what someone else is experiencing and what their personal view or behaviour is a result of, so how about we all try and do our very best to adhere to the situations we find ourselves in and to protect each other with love and not judgement.

These new restrictions have come about thanks to the selfish idiots flouting the rules, mostly youngsters and certain people who do not give a damn and you cannot blame the government for this. Dominic C is being mentioned and yes he did wrong but I for one and many others didn’t think oh, well we will flout the rules too, this pandemic is not a tit for tat game. I’m heartily fed up with it , not leading a normal life and seeing my children and grandchildren, but the sooner everyone pulls together and takes this seriously the sooner we will get over it. Yes it’s hard on the youngsters but also on everyone else. I have Spanish friends who have had a terrible time in Spain, they were virtually under martial law. Now since restrictions lifted they are back to square one with youngsters partying and protesting etc. Our little ones at school are lucky not having to wear masks, the 6 year olds upwards have to in Spain.

Im sure folk could adhere to winter in lockdown much more as the idiots who flocked to beaches, and gatherings in parks etc in the sun, would not want to in bad weather!

But Aepgirl- thats not an excuse- thats in the 'rules' as allowed by gov't,as said by PM,that theyre allowed not just 6 if theyre in the bubble.

Won't really affect me, but not surprised. It was predicted in September. People forget Covid was downgraded in March - FACT!
Try to keep calm. Once the new 'Global Finance System' is completed things will change. It is more important we try to help those who are in fear and who don't know what is really happening in the background.

Also theres too many different rules for 4 countries in what are supposed to be a united kingdom! ONE set of rules for ALL four countries(England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales) is what we need, and what we SHOULD have!How are we possibly united?Then we should unite, and ALL be same, or be four separate countries if they all want different rules & different laws & different benefits etc.

No excuses should be used to meet in groups of more than 6. It’s breaking the rules that has lead to these new restrictions and the virus will just carry on if selfish people just won’t consider others.

Wendy- but wont that be ok,as the MiL is living alone?and i presume they are her 'support bubble'?

Yes Callistemon, a mum has apparently filmed how overcrowded the buses are?it was on one of the news links, the buses are always overfull not just schoolkids but other passengers in general, along with the kids, in northwest, yet in other counties (where one of my son's is a driver) they dont allow over a certain number to get on.

My daughter lives near to us and with her partner and 2 children we will be 6. So that is ok. Our son won’t be able to visit at the same time now. Christmas may be difficult as daughter brings her MIL with them as she lives on her own. We will have to see what happens by then. Also son has brought his MIL because she lives alone! That would make 7.

So the magic number is 6. We can do this as only twice since lockdown eased have we exceeded this number anyway in the house and garden. I will be doing a school run and looking after 20mth old while DD works. I also work in a school and so will be coming into contact with adults and children. We are just going to be sensible, wash hands and wear a mask if going to a shop. I took the message to ve ‘meetings of upto6’ in your house. So this will not apply to public buildings/ museums/ public transport all of which should now be Covid prepared.

Children are included within the six person limit so if you are from different households then a group of seven will breach the guidelines (law) of how many people can meet or stay over in the same house.

I'd much rather have these limitations right now - than have an extended winter lockdown situation. That would be truly grim.

I'm glad that larger gatherings are now illegal. At least the police will be able to take real action over all the drunken parties around here (every weekend), the defiant BBQ, beach going, jetsetting lot who've been 'bank holiday celebrating' since March.

A local club/restaurant that reopened last week, complete with music, DJ and dance floor merely sent it's revellers into the car park when police visited.

Police returned the next day - to find the same party situation. It's utterly ridiculous that they've had no real power of arrest or shutdown.

While most of us are doing our level best to follow the advice and reduce the risks, the 'party set' need to be firmly cracked down upon.

Missadventure- you mean like Mr Cummings?

We ALL know the bigger picture- and what it is! But OP asked for if we are personally affected- and how? They want to know.so we've told. What's to 'agree' with on grandad1943's side?The restrictions should be tighter, we should never have been taken out of lockdown totally till cases went down further - also pubs should have stayed closed, and there should have been NO flying anywhere allowed at all! If they'd done all that maybe by now we could be free to see our own families.They relaxed the rules early on the wrong things!

Because some people seek every little loophole to hope it can be tweaked to their own circumstances.
I'm sure a lot of people genuinely aren't sure of how the rules apply to them.

Nannan2

Yes callistemon, im just glad now my son has moved on to college that at least hes on a college bus, and theres not that many people on his route- when he was in high school it was normal bus route only and bus was always well overfull.

I was quite shocked when DGD told me the other day how overcrowded the bus is. She has never managed to get a seat.
With the threat of the virus to add to this, it sounds worryingly dangerous.

I have 5 grandchildren in one family so this means we can never see them together as a family.We are not even allowed to see them in the garden now,well as from Monday!

And why would you NOT count children as one each?

Nannan2

They asked how it will affect us so they want to know, so we shouldnt feel ashamed to say how! NO ONE said they aren't going to follow the new rules, nor any of others we had to follow before- so grandad 1943 and his 'fan club' can get off their high horse and they should be ashamed of themselves, criticising folk, when we've clearly all been following the rules so all we're doing is telling how it will affect us which is what OP wanted us to do!

I'm not ashamed of myself for agreeing with Grandad. Goodness knows, I agree with him rarely enough, so I'm hardly a member of any "fan club".

Please dont lecture me, i saw GC once since march, AND NO I DIDNT HUG THEM

My son has a family of 5. His wife’s mother was shielding lives on her own so they have always bubbled with her. Previous rules say we as 2 adult household can not cross their single household bubble. We have GC birthday next Wednesday but the new rules say we can’t join their party as that would be greater than 6. So we have decided to drop off presents and FaceTime them. There is still no guidance that I can see for whether or not grandparents can babysit GC? Anyone have any ideas on this?

Yes callistemon, im just glad now my son has moved on to college that at least hes on a college bus, and theres not that many people on his route- when he was in high school it was normal bus route only and bus was always well overfull.