Government corruption why is no one shouting from the housetops?

Grayling to be paid £100000 to work 7 hours a week on advising ports company It has been suggested that anyone with shares in the company should sell them immediately given the reverse Midas touch that Grayling has.

Yes Grany, it’s unbelievable but I read this morning they are still leading in the polls with 40% of the electorate still supporting them. The mind boggles how anyone could think they’re doing a good job. If Labour were in charge doing all this the papers would be annihilating them!

How very sad for the people in the North East who voted for Johnson because they believed his promises to help them. I will hold up my hands if he ‘comes good’ on his many vows that they would have better future but I am not holding my breath. As one of the fortunate couples living in Harrogate I see the pain of people who struggle daily in places like Darlington not too far away from here.

I agree. In despair how far we have been dragged down by this corrupt government.

From the Independent this morning, quoting the Times:

^A couple of reports in the Saturday newspapers this morning have suggested that Boris Johnson is struggling personally with leading the UK through the coronavirus crisis.
The Times quoted a senior Conservative source who said a “sort of misery” had been etched over Mr Johnson’s face recently.
“This is all weighing very heavily on him. I think you can see it even in some of his public appearances — the sort of misery etched on his face,” they said, as reported by the newspaper.
“He doesn’t seem to be enjoying being at the helm in rough seas.”^

I don't suppose any leader is enjoying trying to get their country through these times, but for the most part they are able to step up to the challenge and put the work in. I believe Johnson just wanted to be called PM and didn't think he would actually have to do any work. I have no sympathy for him. If he's not up to the job, he should step down.

Apparently he is struggling to make ends met as well.

I genuinely believe that Johnson thought he would be the second Churchill. It was never going to happen! If he really is short of cash he only has to write a book when he departs from number 10.

CR39

I genuinely believe that Johnson thought he would be the second Churchill. It was never going to happen! If he really is short of cash he only has to write a book when he departs from number 10.

I agree CR39
I read somewhere that he gets more income from writing columns for the Telegraph than he does from being PM. If he can't live on that then I have even less sympathy for him. How can he possibly understand how ordinary people in this country live?

I read somewhere that he gets more income from writing columns for the Telegraph than he does from being PM.

I've seen extracts from the Times article. apparently, as a Telegraph columnist he earned £350,000 a year. He's had to take a considerable drop to £150,000 pa as PM. It's really bad because he has to pay maintenance for at least 4 children and is there some alimony?

Apparently its a real hardship to live in a Downing street flat; they only have a cleaner and can't afford to pay a nanny...

Presumably he lives there rent free? Although I suppose it is a benefit in kind. I wonder what his net worth is?

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Johnson earned over £800,000 in the last financial year, according to the official HoP site. He was paid over £100,000 for one after-dinner speech.

Hmmm ... I don't suppose the article in the Times had anything to do with Murdoch and Gove having dinner together a couple of weeks ago.

The 4 children with his 2nd wife are ages 21-27 The child he tried to hide with a court order is 11. Then there’s a baby apparently and maybe one other child and god knows how many maybes. Of course he can afford all these children - Tories believe in not having more children than you can afford.

CR39

I genuinely believe that Johnson thought he would be the second Churchill. It was never going to happen! If he really is short of cash he only has to write a book when he departs from number 10.

I think he thought all he had to do was come up with some good sound bites to be like Churchill. Little did he realise he would, like Churchill be leader when the country was in crisis.

growstuff

Hmmm ... I don't suppose the article in the Times had anything to do with Murdoch and Gove having dinner together a couple of weeks ago.

That’s a good point

Churchill was his own man not a puppet, is BJ really that deluded.

Davidhs

Churchill was his own man not a puppet, is BJ really that deluded.

Good question! I'm not a mind reader, but it appears he might be.

Another point about Churchill was that he was surrounded by talented people, such as Attlee, Bevin and many others. He disagreed with them, but he wasn't afraid to have them in his team and they did a good job. Johnson has surrounded himself with sycophantic and not very talented people. The one exception is Gove.

When living in Spain, we were surprised at the corruption, starting with the local mayors of the small towns. In England now, we are so disillusioned and think basically all MPs are only out for themselves. The Prime Minister does not seem to get any backing from his own party. I think we have lost our way in this country. Who actually sanctions all the illegal immigrants having all these benefits when they have contributed nothing to our economy? When we lived abroad we had to prove we had sufficient income in our account to live there, the government here has no real interest in the well-being of the populace, nothing done to help family well-being, the police force is a joke as they have no real powers. My husband and I often say - thank goodness we are the ages we are (70s) as we fear for the future in the UK and future of our family.

I suppose there has always been corruption from the beginning of time but the extent of it now is appalling and needs someone to step up to the plate and denounce the lot of them. Maybe Keri Starmer will try on behalf of the forgotten masses. Do you think I am completely naive in believing this can ever happen!

Carenza If they are ILLEGALLY here, they have no official existence, so they don't get any benefits - signing up for benefits would reveal that they are here, which would get them sent back.

If they arrive here openly, saying that they are in danger in their own country, they are housed and regulations on how they are legally supported and housed is here. england.shelter.org.uk/legal/housing_options/asylum_seekers That will tell you who sanctions what.

If they are foreigners, here working in hospitals and so on, IO assume you don't object to them being paid a fair wage for what they do?

Carenza If they are ILLEGALLY here, they have no official existence, so they don't get any benefits - signing up for benefits would reveal that they are here, which would get them sent back.

They're Schrodinger's immigrants, Elegran. Everybody's favourites...

Carenza Illegal immigrants in the UK receive nothing!

Ironically, truly illegal immigrants probably contribute more to the economy than they ever receive. They work in nail bars or as cleaners or in sweatshops or take always, often for very low wages. They can't complain and they won't receive sick pay if they can't work and will never be eligible for a pension.

They contribute by providing a service and a profit to their employers, who probably do pay some form of tax.

How often is it necessary to repeat. Illegal immigrants get nothing. They can’t claim, that identifies them, off to Yarswood.
Asylum seekers, refugees, get cheap accommodation, they aren’t allowed to work, they get under £50 a week to live on. Once granted asylum, the vast majority work, pay tacescand contribute. I’ve worked with foster carers, teachers, many care workers etc who escaped possible death and untold misery to get here.
I do not understand the prejudice and lack of humanity, ignorance of truth, that leads some to complain about these desperate people

Interesting figures in the Guardian/Observer today. Migrants make up around 15% of the population. (Not a lot)

There are 525,000 people in the top 1% earning over £128,000. 24 % of those moved to the UK as adults.

These figures are based upon anonymised UK tax returns used for research by the University of Warwick.

Apparently in low income jobs only about 1 in 6 are migrants. But of course the local population of low earners is unaware of that.