Government corruption why is no one shouting from the housetops?

Grany

Couldn't shouldn't there be a system that's recognises wrong doing criminal activities that can call this government to account, it is obvious they are not acting in the publics interest and doing untold damage?

Who should there be to put a stop to all this wrong doing?

Do other countries have a brake they can put on their government if they are acting illegally?

There is, Grany It is the legal system. The PM and the cabinet are answerable to Parliament, and they are all answerable to the laws of the land, as administered by the system of justice. It appears that neither the assembly of MPs nor the judges are independent enough to call them to account.
No-one is above the law, and the lawmakers should be honourable and public-spirited enough not to frame laws to increase their own wealth and that of their friends and supporters, nor to use their power to act in ways that would cause a procurement manager in any business to be sacked without a reference.

Thankyou growstuff and Whitewave2. It does seem to be a global issue. There was a heartbreaking section on the news last night about India where amidst indescribable suffering by millions of people their ruler parades around feeding peacocks and declaring everything is going well.!
The world seems a smaller place where more power and wealth is held by fewer people.
In a time where we have almost unlimited access to information and live news it feels people are instead more insular and easily distracted by an endless stream of nonsense.
For a short while during lockdown it felt as though people genuinely stopped to breathe and evaluate their lives. I'm as guilty as the next person in my use of Amazon but the wealth and power of Geoff Bezos is something I find chilling. Do we even know who holds the real power? Scary though the prospect it part of me Hope's things will fall apart because whether it's the value placed on individuals or the pollution of our planet something needs to change.

You may recall that Ayanda, connected to Liz Truss, delivered £160m of unusable face masks to the NHS in a contract that had remarkable and inexplicable clauses (which Govt refuses to explain) for a profit we believe to be substantially in excess of £50m.

Their supporters don’t even have the balls to support them, except maybe ug, but that is only through the prism of Brexit.

I would say you're politically savvy enough to understand what's going on.

I’m not that politically savvy, but for what it’s worth.
They’ve got us where they want us. We break the law if we gather, the restrictions give us less of a voice, we can’t do a thing about it since the gov have a huge majority, they don’t listen unless you agree with them, then they just say lots of people agree with them and lots do, (god knows who they are) and carry on regardless. Now the BBC has a Conservative new director general who wants a stop to Left political satire.
It’s all very depressing.

Excellent thread. There's a line in a Billy Bragg song, "Sweet moderation, heart of this nation" and I always thought that described what we wanted this nation to be, even if we didn't always achieve it. Now that seems a long way off.

Luckygirl asks a good question - How do we claw ourselves back from this pit?

And ministers no longer take responsibility for errors in their departments; and unelected advisors can dictate what happens in government; and a transparent commissioning process for large government expenditure is no longer seen as necessary; and we can flout international law.

So many people said that Johnson's scant regard for morality and decency in his private life was irrelevant to his position as PM - how very wrong they were.

How do we claw ourselves back from this pit?

The government doesn't listen to public opinion and doesn't respect the law. What next?

Why are we not shouting from the rooftops? Been there, tied that and what happened - zilch. They just ploughed on in their merry way.

We are in the same situation as those with dictatorships now - public opinion is casually ignored and discarded.

Brilliant post Dorsetcupcake.

Dorsetcupcake61

I'm increasingly ashamed to be British. Just seeing Johnson and his cronies at press briefings leaves me speechless. They are so bad it's no longer even worthy of scorn but alarming.
There are strong voices raising concern but it feels to me that they have got away with so much they are just doing what they want whilst they can.
I do sometimes wonder whether it's a case of they are not behaving any differently but the current situation with a global pandemic plus Brexit has made them more visible and open to scrutiny than they would otherwise have been.
In my most pessimistic moments I've wondered if this is what it feels like in countries with dictators where those that rule follow there own agenda without challenge.
There is so much that is wrong its difficult to know where to start. Care homes? Schools? The treatment of covid vulnerable workers? Billions given to private companies for failing projects? The crumbling of social care,nhs,education all on their knees due to austerity before the pandemic.
I would never vote Conservative but I think at the start of this pandemic I expected them to do the right thing and protect the public. Their ruthlessness has shocked me to the core,those that are ill, vulnerable, poor,disabled apart from a few token gestures are thrown to the wolves. Anyone who believes frontline workers who are vulnerable to covid are given reliable protection in workplace are mistaken. It's totally down to employers. I know a teaching assistant who is very high risk. The school he is at puts him at risk to extent hes written his will. His headmaster has said if he cant do his job he can leave. Unions are ultimately powerless. They are guidelines not law.
The head of Royal College of Nursing has said frontline staff are on their knees. I wouldnt hold your breath that NHS is any better equipped to deal with a second wave,although at least more is known about treatment.
Returning to question. Why is nothing being done? I dont know. Why is Trump so popular?
I'm sure all of us remember the Poll Tax riots in 1990s. This goes beyond that. Restrictions on public gatherings? In the past it has been suggested that people feel completing online petitions or debate on social media is a valid protest.
Someone once said the only things that change in society due to war or pandemics.
I think to be honest people are to busy bickering amongst themselves and justifying why the pandemic is or isnt serious/who to blame for increase in infections/ merits of brexit etc. There is little cohesion and increasingly less empathy.
I have always felt very strongly that unless this virus disappears rapidly/an effective vaccine is found we are at the start of a long painful process. If the darker predictions are true we face unimaginable unemployment,poverty and hardship. At the moment those who are suffering most are those that always do. When it spreads upwards things may change. I occasionally wonder if the situation is so horrendous that Johnson and company know it's almost impossible to resolve and so are protecting own interests whilst can.

A very thoughtful post.

Davidhs

Parliament should stop it.

The Tories have an 80 seat majority so nothing is going to be done.

When this crisis is over people will be held to account, there is probably more negligence than corruption.

Do you honestly think they'll be held to account? I wish I thought that. I honestly don't see how handing out contracts to cronies without tendering isn't corruption.

I'm increasingly ashamed to be British. Just seeing Johnson and his cronies at press briefings leaves me speechless. They are so bad it's no longer even worthy of scorn but alarming.
There are strong voices raising concern but it feels to me that they have got away with so much they are just doing what they want whilst they can.
I do sometimes wonder whether it's a case of they are not behaving any differently but the current situation with a global pandemic plus Brexit has made them more visible and open to scrutiny than they would otherwise have been.
In my most pessimistic moments I've wondered if this is what it feels like in countries with dictators where those that rule follow there own agenda without challenge.
There is so much that is wrong its difficult to know where to start. Care homes? Schools? The treatment of covid vulnerable workers? Billions given to private companies for failing projects? The crumbling of social care,nhs,education all on their knees due to austerity before the pandemic.
I would never vote Conservative but I think at the start of this pandemic I expected them to do the right thing and protect the public. Their ruthlessness has shocked me to the core,those that are ill, vulnerable, poor,disabled apart from a few token gestures are thrown to the wolves. Anyone who believes frontline workers who are vulnerable to covid are given reliable protection in workplace are mistaken. It's totally down to employers. I know a teaching assistant who is very high risk. The school he is at puts him at risk to extent hes written his will. His headmaster has said if he cant do his job he can leave. Unions are ultimately powerless. They are guidelines not law.
The head of Royal College of Nursing has said frontline staff are on their knees. I wouldnt hold your breath that NHS is any better equipped to deal with a second wave,although at least more is known about treatment.
Returning to question. Why is nothing being done? I dont know. Why is Trump so popular?
I'm sure all of us remember the Poll Tax riots in 1990s. This goes beyond that. Restrictions on public gatherings? In the past it has been suggested that people feel completing online petitions or debate on social media is a valid protest.
Someone once said the only things that change in society due to war or pandemics.
I think to be honest people are to busy bickering amongst themselves and justifying why the pandemic is or isnt serious/who to blame for increase in infections/ merits of brexit etc. There is little cohesion and increasingly less empathy.
I have always felt very strongly that unless this virus disappears rapidly/an effective vaccine is found we are at the start of a long painful process. If the darker predictions are true we face unimaginable unemployment,poverty and hardship. At the moment those who are suffering most are those that always do. When it spreads upwards things may change. I occasionally wonder if the situation is so horrendous that Johnson and company know it's almost impossible to resolve and so are protecting own interests whilst can.

Parliament should stop it.

The Tories have an 80 seat majority so nothing is going to be done.

When this crisis is over people will be held to account, there is probably more negligence than corruption.

Bit of light relief

MummyJoJo62

rubysong

Whitewavemark2 would you please say what WA and MSM are. Sorry, I can't think what they stand for.

Thank you! I sometimes feel like a child at the back of the class too scared to put my hand up. And then a hero comes along xxxx

Never ever think that!!???

Not all of us are politics freaks!

Ask away as much as you like! It makes us feel superior????

GrannyGravy13

I voted Conservative and I am extremely frustrated and cross.

As are the handful off Conservative voters I know. We disagree on much, but we respect each other as decent human beings and this government is the pits - it's not behaving ethically and anybody with any sense at all can see that.

rubysong

Whitewavemark2 would you please say what WA and MSM are. Sorry, I can't think what they stand for.

Thank you! I sometimes feel like a child at the back of the class too scared to put my hand up. And then a hero comes along xxxx

I voted Conservative and I am extremely frustrated and cross.

We're flogging a dead horse here, I'm afraid. The people who screamed blue murder about a £9billion annual contribution to the EU, which gave us an estimated return in trade and benefits of £10 for every £1 spent, are more than happy, it seems, for this so called 'government' to distribute £billions to their friends, relations and party donors by way of untendered for, and unfulfilled, contracts.

It has been pointed out that this can be a curiously circular transaction in that contracts go to tory party donors who then donate a part of that money back to the tory party in order to secure more space at the trough...

Johnson/Cummings/Hancock are spending £100bn on private companies with little or no experience in testing when much less than this is given to Local Authorities/Public Health who would be much better placed/have better experience to get a workable T&T in place. There is no money for local authorities for these so called “Covid Marshalls “ either. Just so much gaslighting by this bunch of muppets.

You are welcome

Whitewavemark2. Thank you.

WA = withdrawal agreement

MSM= main stream media

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