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Scottish government Covid briefings on the BBC

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Alegrias Fri 11-Sept-20 13:14:37

A thread on another topic kept straying into people's opinions about the Scottish Government's Covid briefings being dropped from the BBC schedules. It seemed to raise a lot of comment so I thought I'd start a new thread.

So, what does everyone think? Feel free to diverge into what you think of NS's performance smile Do you think the WM government should have more briefings?

Granny23 Sun 13-Sept-20 09:43:10

There is much talk in the media and on-line of the setting up of an alternative Indy party. This is because of the way the Scottish Election system works. If a party takes most of the seats first past the post, then they will get few or none on the list which allows minor parties (in Scotland that includes the Tories, Labour, and Liberals) to gain list seats. The idea is to ask voters to vote SNP FPTP and another Indy Party on the list, thus securing a pro indy majority in the Parliament.

Personally, I think these tactics will just muddy the waters, certainly if there is more than one new Indy party. We have currently another established pro Indy Party in the Parliament = The Greens, so there is already an opportunity to vote SNP in the constituencies and Green on the list. If the Green and SNP votes are added together this should demonstrate an overall pro Indy result

lemongrove Sun 13-Sept-20 09:37:53

varian there are all political persuasions at the BBC.....surely you must realise that?!

lemongrove Sun 13-Sept-20 09:36:27

paddyanne

Neither Sheltland nor Orkney are considering Independence ,this is just regurgitated nonsense from 2014 In fact recent polls show a swing to SNP for next years vote...with The Liar Carmichael losing his seat
.Thought your daughter was leaving once she had finished her FREE education SD Wasn't that what you said a couple of years ago..."all heading back to the Home Counties" ,Enjoy Boris' Government when you get there ,then you'll truly know a shambles when you see it !

It’s now ....not 2014 ( although Shetland may have been considering it since then) The Islanders feel no special bond with Scotland ( they are probably nearer to Norway!)
Hmmm, there’s oil there, so the SNP won’t like the thought of independence for Shetland.

ptarmigan Sun 13-Sept-20 09:24:06

Urmstongran

Just been reading that Alex Salmond is seriously thinking of setting up a breakaway party of his own. That will split SNP supporters somewhat and dent NS’s grip next May if he does.

That election might be especially interesting!

What do the Scottish grans think?

I haven't seen that Urmstongran. Would you be mind putting a link to the article please. Thanks

Marydoll Sun 13-Sept-20 09:11:17

Not a fan of Alex Salmond at all. I certainly won't be voting for him.

Not the best move at the moment, when we are all trying to pull together.
The other parties are weak into the bargain, heaven knows how this will pan out.

Urmstongran Sun 13-Sept-20 09:03:52

Just been reading that Alex Salmond is seriously thinking of setting up a breakaway party of his own. That will split SNP supporters somewhat and dent NS’s grip next May if he does.

That election might be especially interesting!

What do the Scottish grans think?

Urmstongran Sun 13-Sept-20 08:40:13

You jest varian surely?

What about Naga Munchetty, Andrew Marr and can any of us ever forget the shocked look on David Dimbleby’s face as the referendum results confirmed a Brexit win at 5am - after most Remainers had gone to bed thinking staying in the EU was in the bag?
?

Elizabeth1 Sun 13-Sept-20 08:08:50

Now why didn’t jayte come up bold in my first reply silly me I must have made a space between the * and the name not much to worry about if that’s all-it is me I’m pedantic

Elizabeth1 Sun 13-Sept-20 08:06:11

I agree wholeheartedly with you * jayt* these professionals are very good at putting their point over clear and concise there’s no fumbling going on there

Callistemon Sat 12-Sept-20 20:28:25

Roll on next year's election.

Roll on the next Scottish independence referendum.

varian Sat 12-Sept-20 20:27:04

No-one should be surprised that the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation takes its orders from the Tories. They always have. Why else would they have so many Tories like Laura Kuenssberg, Andrew Neil and Nick Robinson employed as political commentators?

Jayt Sat 12-Sept-20 20:12:56

I am Scottish and I am so angry that, yesterday, I signed a petition against the BBC action. The report states that the BBC are withdrawing coverage of the First Minister's briefings after "pressure from the Tories". And that would be about right. Boris Johnston's new lap dog in Scotland, Douglas Ross, most likely can't stand seeing Nicola Sturgeon speaking to us every day and giving us the facts and announcing and changes in the rules and regulations re Covid-19. We wouldn't know the rules we have to live under if we were depending on BBC News which reports these matters as it relates to England not us. The Westminster government has made such a hash of their communications with the public that they probably hope they won't look so bad if they remove our First Minister from TV screens. Not only do we hear from our First Minister but also from our Medical, Clinical and Nursing Directors and so all our top people are willing to give us the information we need "straight from the horses mouth" and not from leaks, memos and underlings. Roll on next year's election.

SueDonim Sat 12-Sept-20 20:11:17

The news about Shetland is Thurday’s news, not from 2014. uk.news.yahoo.com/shetland-council-votes-overwhelmingly-to-explore-independence-from-scotland-131214602.html

I have more than one daughter, Paddyanne and yes, she’s taken her skills, acquired for free, down to England, where she’s being paid more and taxed less.

Callistemon Sat 12-Sept-20 20:03:46

I have no axe to grind but am of the opinion that they are starting to seem political rather than public health related.

I am inclined to agree although our "kindly headmaster" Mark Drakeford does not seem to make any political capital out of this situation.

Urmstongran Sat 12-Sept-20 19:43:13

NS is doing her best in a difficult situation. I’m not sure though that broadcasting to her country 5 nights a week is essential.

I have no axe to grind but am of the opinion that they are starting to seem political rather than public health related.

Alegrias Sat 12-Sept-20 19:30:27

Granny23

I.m so excited (not) to learn that the briefings are to be replaced by - wait for it - Repeats of Bargain Hunt. That will surely help to control the virus, while giving solace to Car Booters who have been deprived of their special interest due to Lockdown.

The resistance continues Granny23 wink

www.facebook.com/janeygodleyfanpage/videos/336441444211420

varian Sat 12-Sept-20 18:56:34

Orkney and Shetland are far more likely to consider UDI from Scotland than they would ever be likely to vote SNP.

The SNP threw all their resources and money behind attacking popular Liberal Democrat MP Alistair Carmichael at the last election and still ended up a miserable 10% behind.

paddyanne Sat 12-Sept-20 18:44:45

Neither Sheltland nor Orkney are considering Independence ,this is just regurgitated nonsense from 2014 In fact recent polls show a swing to SNP for next years vote...with The Liar Carmichael losing his seat
.Thought your daughter was leaving once she had finished her FREE education SD Wasn't that what you said a couple of years ago..."all heading back to the Home Counties" ,Enjoy Boris' Government when you get there ,then you'll truly know a shambles when you see it !

Granny23 Sat 12-Sept-20 18:33:02

I.m so excited (not) to learn that the briefings are to be replaced by - wait for it - Repeats of Bargain Hunt. That will surely help to control the virus, while giving solace to Car Booters who have been deprived of their special interest due to Lockdown.

SueDonim Sat 12-Sept-20 18:32:50

Hahaha, Jane10! My dd is thinking of declaring herself her own private breakaway state within Scotland! grin

Jane10 Sat 12-Sept-20 18:28:54

Don't worry SueDonim we'll never be daft enough to support SNP. We can move to Shetland after they get their independence or the Borders and Dumfries and Galloway too now I hear. There won't be much of Scotland left for them.

SueDonim Sat 12-Sept-20 18:24:19

Thanks for the lecture, Alegias. Norty step for me, unless I support the SNP. ?

varian Sat 12-Sept-20 17:37:53

In spite of the fact that the BBC has been over recent years, blatantly pro-Tory and pro-Brexit, I still think that we need the BBC.

Elizabeth1 Sat 12-Sept-20 17:35:39

I don’t believe not paying the tv license is a nonsense let’s take a stand if we’ve got an opinion at all. At least that cash will go into my pocket and not the high end salaries which the BBC pay out angry

Marydoll Sat 12-Sept-20 13:56:38

Good decision, Alegrias.
We can agree to disagree, with insulting each other.