So, did he go to Perugia incognito - or not?

It was nonsense to be sure, but reading many posts on GN makes me realise that too many people are ready and hungry to gobble nonsense up.

Lemongorve? Who that??

No PECS I am not a fan of Boris Johnson and have said so from before he was chosen as the new leader, in fact I hoped Jeremy Hunt would be the new leader and then PM.However I refuse to join in with silly stories and speculation that are presented as certainties on GN threads. If posters hadn’t wanted so very much for it to be true then they would have stopped and thought for a bit ( you’d think!)

PECS

lemongorve it is obvious you are, inexplicably, a fan of our dishonest PM.
Until I saw this thread I had no inkling of this "story" but it strikes me that if our PM was a half decent sort of chap that this nonsense would not have made it to print..in The Times no less! His history of deceit is his own doing and really he has only himself to blame..though I guess we could get into double bluff here.. maybe he or Domcum set it all up to discredit others & try to make the PM look good.... oh what larks!

My point exactly

I think the press would have noticed and pictures of him would be all over the place.

lemongorve it is obvious you are, inexplicably, a fan of our dishonest PM.
Until I saw this thread I had no inkling of this "story" but it strikes me that if our PM was a half decent sort of chap that this nonsense would not have made it to print..in The Times no less! His history of deceit is his own doing and really he has only himself to blame..though I guess we could get into double bluff here.. maybe he or Domcum set it all up to discredit others & try to make the PM look good.... oh what larks!

MaizieD

It is our business, Jaberwok, he is PM and we are paying him. It is a time of national crisis, so what is he doing flying off for weekends in Italy with his Russian mate? Especially when the leaders of the devolved assemblies and the LOTO are asking to meet with him to co-ordinate planning. No COBRA meeting since May!!

However, you just keep your eyes shut and your fingers in your ears...

Another poster who likes to speculate ahead of the facts.

Well.....you did your best whitewave but it wasn’t good enough?
You chose to believe the story because you wanted to....see the danger in that? When the sensible thing to do was to not bother to speculate ahead of the facts.
As I said at least twice before, it was a non story.

Nah, I’m afraid, it’s a bit like stealing for me, there are no degrees - £1 or £1 million, it’s all the same!

Almost like saying, I’m a little bit pregnant......

Pantglas2

I agree that he’s dishonest - still struggling with an honest one....

My point is that there are degrees of honesty.

I agree that he’s dishonest - still struggling with an honest one....

It was a cut and paste from today’s DT- I find using links often results in them disappearing behind a paywall.

Jus a mention of the DT in your post would have been helpful.

Would you like a link to Westminster Cathedral, the Catholic Church or perhaps a Pope Francis too, to check apparently plausible refutations ?

Blimey. Did they all put out signed statements in support of Johnson's story? ?

Pantglas2

WWMk2 - your post at 7:56.....an oxymoron surely?

I’ve gone back through my voting memory and can’t name one?

I know confusing isn’t it? Let me help with that..

A prime minister who has got sacked for lying twice, and “forgot” the lie he told only a day or two previously.

There are so many more.

Most previous PMs will have come nowhere near this one.

WWMk2 - your post at 7:56.....an oxymoron surely?

I’ve gone back through my voting memory and can’t name one?

MaizieD

@MawB

Where did all the italicised text in your post of 06.35 come from?

It would be good if people would link to their sources, or at least name them... Please... Apparently plausible refutations of any story need to be checked out too...

It was a cut and paste from today’s DT- I find using links often results in them disappearing behind a paywall.
Would you like a link to Westminster Cathedral, the Catholic Church or perhaps a Pope Francis too, to check apparently plausible refutations ?

Lucca ignore her. I do.

Jaberwok

Now we have the left trying to bluster their way out of their ridiculous allegations!! Why aren't we surprised?!! All politicians lie and cheat at some point, even P.M's 's if needs must, even dear old sainted Churchill was known to tell the odd porky!!!!!

Who pray tell ? If you’re referring to me for example talking about “la repubblica “ you may note I had not previously contributed to the thread!

(I think also it has often been said nobody considered Churchill saintly )

Politicians of the left & right will have contacts with like minded people in other countries. As long as their politics are ' legal' and arrangements open there is no problem.
However, if an individual, or country, is buying influence..via financial support, trade etc etc. then it should be open and above board. Any " secret" arrangements or promises are not ok.
I am sure it goes on all the time. Russia, China , Israel, Gulf States & USA all want control & influence in UK politics as we are a strategic pawn now we are dropping our European alliance...which, imo, gave us a stronger ability to resist other influence that the electorate now has no say in.

Jaberwok

Now we have the left trying to bluster their way out of their ridiculous allegations!! Why aren't we surprised?!! All politicians lie and cheat at some point, even P.M's 's if needs must, even dear old sainted Churchill was known to tell the odd porky!!!!!

Nothing to see here! Move on! (Unless you're the one who likes making mountains out of molehills!)

Jaberwok

FGS! Today's burning question? Is Carrie a practising Catholic?!! Now there's a conundrum to keep us occupied all day! I doubt very much that the Catholic church have long list of practising Catholics world wide! However we could perhaps find out which church she goes to, how regularly she attends, does she take communion regularly, what time does she attend?, early morning or high mass? does her mother to with her? Last, but certainly not least, does she attend Evensong?!! All these vitally important questions now need answering to the satisfaction of left wing GN posters to make absolutely certain that there are no shenanigans about Carrie being a Catholic and Wilfreds christening which clashed with a presumed trip to Italy for the weekend, which, if true, would of course have been appallingly disgraceful, but it may not have been true as it could have been Tony Blair!!! Dear God do you people never give up!!?!!

Do calm down dear! You won't do your health any good!

This sort of confusion would never happen if we had an honest prime minister.

It was hardly a 'tabloid headline'. The initial story was in The Times (though I suppose it could be verging on tabloid these days...)

Now we have the left trying to bluster their way out of their ridiculous allegations!! Why aren't we surprised?!! All politicians lie and cheat at some point, even P.M's 's if needs must, even dear old sainted Churchill was known to tell the odd porky!!!!!

@MawB

Where did all the italicised text in your post of 06.35 come from?

It would be good if people would link to their sources, or at least name them... Please... Apparently plausible refutations of any story need to be checked out too...

Indeed Lucca (see my post earlier this morning)
There is a particular form of (especially) tabloid headline which raises a potential “scandal” by asking a question containing most of the mud they want to sling.
“Was Prince Philip mystery man?” at the time of the Profumo scandal was one.
The article which followed was entirely guesswork and came to no verifiable conclusion, but the damage was done without breaching the laws of libel
So basically this thread could have been reduced to two posts
“So did he go to Perugia incognito - or not?”
Not.

Next question?

Only Johnson could come third in a two horse race