So, did he go to Perugia incognito - or not?

WWMk2 - your post at 7:56.....an oxymoron surely?

I’ve gone back through my voting memory and can’t name one?

Pantglas2

WWMk2 - your post at 7:56.....an oxymoron surely?

I’ve gone back through my voting memory and can’t name one?

I know confusing isn’t it? Let me help with that..

A prime minister who has got sacked for lying twice, and “forgot” the lie he told only a day or two previously.

There are so many more.

Most previous PMs will have come nowhere near this one.

It was a cut and paste from today’s DT- I find using links often results in them disappearing behind a paywall.

Jus a mention of the DT in your post would have been helpful.

Would you like a link to Westminster Cathedral, the Catholic Church or perhaps a Pope Francis too, to check apparently plausible refutations ?

Blimey. Did they all put out signed statements in support of Johnson's story? ?

I agree that he’s dishonest - still struggling with an honest one....

Pantglas2

I agree that he’s dishonest - still struggling with an honest one....

My point is that there are degrees of honesty.

Nah, I’m afraid, it’s a bit like stealing for me, there are no degrees - £1 or £1 million, it’s all the same!

Almost like saying, I’m a little bit pregnant......

Well.....you did your best whitewave but it wasn’t good enough?
You chose to believe the story because you wanted to....see the danger in that? When the sensible thing to do was to not bother to speculate ahead of the facts.
As I said at least twice before, it was a non story.

MaizieD

It is our business, Jaberwok, he is PM and we are paying him. It is a time of national crisis, so what is he doing flying off for weekends in Italy with his Russian mate? Especially when the leaders of the devolved assemblies and the LOTO are asking to meet with him to co-ordinate planning. No COBRA meeting since May!!

However, you just keep your eyes shut and your fingers in your ears...

Another poster who likes to speculate ahead of the facts.

lemongorve it is obvious you are, inexplicably, a fan of our dishonest PM.
Until I saw this thread I had no inkling of this "story" but it strikes me that if our PM was a half decent sort of chap that this nonsense would not have made it to print..in The Times no less! His history of deceit is his own doing and really he has only himself to blame..though I guess we could get into double bluff here.. maybe he or Domcum set it all up to discredit others & try to make the PM look good.... oh what larks!

I think the press would have noticed and pictures of him would be all over the place.

PECS

lemongorve it is obvious you are, inexplicably, a fan of our dishonest PM.
Until I saw this thread I had no inkling of this "story" but it strikes me that if our PM was a half decent sort of chap that this nonsense would not have made it to print..in The Times no less! His history of deceit is his own doing and really he has only himself to blame..though I guess we could get into double bluff here.. maybe he or Domcum set it all up to discredit others & try to make the PM look good.... oh what larks!

My point exactly

Lemongorve? Who that??

No PECS I am not a fan of Boris Johnson and have said so from before he was chosen as the new leader, in fact I hoped Jeremy Hunt would be the new leader and then PM.However I refuse to join in with silly stories and speculation that are presented as certainties on GN threads. If posters hadn’t wanted so very much for it to be true then they would have stopped and thought for a bit ( you’d think!)

It was nonsense to be sure, but reading many posts on GN makes me realise that too many people are ready and hungry to gobble nonsense up.

I would really love it it someone had the courage to say “we were wrong” without qualifying it or making excuses. After all you have called on the Prime Minister to do it. Yet again, double standards,

Sorry but I’d like Jabberwok to recognise that I for example did not join in the thread except to explain as MawB2 did how the error arose.

Even his own party don't believe him because of his habit of lying.

It's the "Boy who cried Wolf" surely Boris with his expensive education knows about that!!? Maybe his nanny wasn't as good as Rees Mogg's and didn't tell him stories.

Ooops! Sorry lemongrove!

As I said I did not know about the accusation but as it was reported in an apparently reputable newspsper I think it understandable that a thread would occur.... like when Jezza apparently wore the wrong coatto the cenotaph..a non story!

The OP was not a statement, nor an accusation, but clearly written as a question. And yes, the constant lies over a long period of time by this PM, means that speculation will always be in the air- and in this case, due to his frequent visits to Russian Oligarchs in the Perugia region in the past.

I certainly hope, but doubt, sadly - that some of you watched Panorama last night- and thus realise how those connections, with our top banking institutions,, and links to PM and other senior politicians- is a very serious matter indeed. And probably the only reason why ERG wanted Brexit- to avoid scrutiny. Perugia or not is by the by.

No PM has been as dishonest!! Quote Mrs May: (several times) ' Brexit means Brexit '. It didn't!! 'No deal is better than a bad deal'!! It soon became obvious that for M.M it wasn't!! Compromise was the order of the day! That much did become very clear, so why not say so in the first place? D.C who was going to activate article 50 the day after the referendum! He didn't! Instead he ran away, so you can add political cowardice to an obvious lie! At least no one can accuse Boris of that!

No reply as per.

biba70 I strongly object to your assumption that anyone opposing your views would not have watched Panorama. I make a point of watching most of the political discussions and documentary programmes, but with an open mind. I am currently what is generally known as a floating voter, but I do believe in fair play, something I have found sadly lacking in some of the posts here.

Panorama raised so many questions, but it simply adds more fuel to what we already aware of

Ben Scoble

“Russia Report
Tennis Matches
Donations
Chumocracy
Panama Papers
Brexit
Now FinCen

All just background noise?
For what?”

5 pages of comments on an OP based on fake news! Johnson was having his child Christened at Westminster.

Several posters discredited on this thread. Makes serious political discussion difficult elsewhere.