Going to university in 2020

The difficulty is ensuring the young person is both happy and healthy. At that age being happy means furthering one's learning in a sharing environment and mixing with large groups of students. The health side of things is, at this moment in time, incompatible.
In the UK most students leave home to study, which in turn creates a lot of movement around the country. I understand that that is part of their agenda (to cut the apron strings), but maybe staying more in one's own town or in the area would help both financially and in terms of safety in the future?

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head Nonnie about looking at it from all perspectives. Everyone is suffering the students, the universities, the landlords.

Ditto out there in industry, retail, entertainment, sport, public private sectors, etc..Some more than others.

Like you I don’t have the answers, but, given the lack of leadership I hope that gradually compromises and some sort of solution will eventually emerge.

PS. Some private student accommodation is appalling and I have no sympathy at all for the landlords of such property. Maybe they should find a source of pension which doesn't involve ripping off other human beings.

So it's fair for them to pay £9250 plus the same again for rent for an experience they're not getting?

I don't think it's the students' responsibility to make up for the shortfall in landlords' income.

Teetime

I dont see why the fee should be £9K a year if its on- line only. The OU have been doing this for years far more economically.

The OU cancelled the last module in the summer because of the pandemic! Those students didn't get what they paid for.

I don't have any answers but I remember just a week or so ago students were complaining about having to work online and wanted face to face tuition.

I do think we need to look at this from all perspectives, none of us knew it was coming and, hopefully, all are doing their best. Even landlords have to live, for some it is their only pension.

Perhaps students are being forced to recognise that life isn't fair? We are all learning something from the pandemic.

Teetime

I dont see why the fee should be £9K a year if its on- line only. The OU have been doing this for years far more economically.

Not that much more economically, but I agree that it's an absolute rip off, especially if they're in university accommodation, for which they'll have taken out an additional loan.

PS. It's £9250.

At a time when we need 1000s of doctors and nurses in the NHS, this is a disaster- as an aside.

FannyCornforth

I heard on the radio this morning that loads of students are just going home.
They can't stand the prospect of being forced to not go home for Christmas amongst other things.

I can't say I blame them. Many of them will have been through the A level fiasco and for this to happen is terrible. The first year at uni is stressful for many at the best of times.

I dont see why the fee should be £9K a year if its on- line only. The OU have been doing this for years far more economically.

One of my grandchildren had opted to have a gap year and has a place for 2021. Initially there was disappointment because a very exciting year had been planned, but seeing what is happening now I am very glad for the deferment, hopefully by next year things will have settled down. Thankfully the other grandchildren have either graduated or are at gcse/A level stage, though who knows where that is going.

I've just read your article.
So irresponsible.
Can't this country do anything right in this crisis?

I heard on the radio this morning that loads of students are just going home.
They can't stand the prospect of being forced to not go home for Christmas amongst other things.

Some students are asking why they've been sent to their university at this time

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54292728

NotSpaghetti My son is at a Russell Group uni and has had hardly any teaching, face-to-face or online since January. First, lecturers were on strike, then there was lockdown. He's had various assignments to complete, but they were all written and he was expected to do his own research without support.

He's supposed to be returning in October and has been promised three hours of face-to-face seminars a week, but there has been no mention of online lectures. At the moment, he's assuming that there won't be any and he'll be expected to do all research independently.

Actually, I think universities should really be grant funded so my comments about the fees are intended as a throw-away!

The universities are desperate to fill the halls for which they charge a massive fee. That's why they want them on campus.

BUT the sheer amount of work involved in teaching online at this level is extraordinary. I think the £9,000 is arguably worth it for the first time ever!
I don't know about all subjects but my husband was working all through lockdown every day including weekends until the end of the summer. He was teaching online through till the exams. Weekdays he started at 8am and invariably worked till 8 at night. Now retired, his colleagues say they are already exhausted and the new semester has only just begun.

His university is expecting staff to teach online till 9pm including Saturdays.