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Is there a secret opposition (or where is Keir?)

(35 Posts)
paddyanne Tue 29-Sept-20 10:58:01

Labour haven't been an opposition for over a decade,why would they start now? They've abstained on anything they could have stopped ,refused to cooperate with SNP .the 3rd biggest party on WM because of what? For now Scotland is IN the inion so our MPs should be treated with respect not told to F off etc.Having the support of our MP's could have made a big difference to labour when the tories didn't have a majority of 80! Begs the question...are they really labour or Tories in red ties? That "SIR" might be a clue ...socialists and titles ?

Sparklefizz Tue 29-Sept-20 10:57:25

I have no idea what Labour's policies are though. It seems that they are shooting up the polls by default.

growstuff Tue 29-Sept-20 10:54:09

Oopsminty

According to the Politico poll of polls the Conservatives are 1 point ahead.

www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/

I'm just amazed that Labour haven't been beating the Conservatives in polls for months. I'd have expected them to have been far ahead.

Staggering.

The YouGov poll is later than the last one on Politico. Admittedly 1 or 2 points doesn't make much difference. The breakdown of the YouGov poll is available. The Conservative vote is holding up amongst older (over 50) voters, especially pensioners, which doesn't surprise me.

Younger voters (under 50) would overwhelmingly vote Labour, think Starmer would make best PM and disapprove of the way the government us handling Brexit. Four years is a long time until the next election. Labour needs to work on current 14-18 year olds in the constituencies which matter.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 29-Sept-20 10:43:48

Oopsminty

According to the Politico poll of polls the Conservatives are 1 point ahead.

www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/

I'm just amazed that Labour haven't been beating the Conservatives in polls for months. I'd have expected them to have been far ahead.

Staggering.

Starmer has been beating Johnson in popularity for a few months now, it has taken the voting intention a while to catch up.

growstuff Tue 29-Sept-20 10:42:08

I think the reason Justine Greening was on TV is because she has campaigned for social mobility since leaving Parliament. She wasn't there as a representative of a political party.

BTW Gavin Williamson was at the virtual Tory conference talking about "snowflake" students and no-platforming. He didn't mention the current situation.

Oopsminty Tue 29-Sept-20 10:39:11

According to the Politico poll of polls the Conservatives are 1 point ahead.

www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/

I'm just amazed that Labour haven't been beating the Conservatives in polls for months. I'd have expected them to have been far ahead.

Staggering.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 29-Sept-20 10:34:16

In April the voting intention by the U.K. population was 52% Labour 28%.

Starmer has seen labours ratings climb 26% since then.

Now say there is no opposition.

Millions of people disagree.

growstuff Tue 29-Sept-20 10:24:58

Kate Green wrote to Gavin Williamson on 26 September outlining Labour's proposed alternatives.

Galaxy Tue 29-Sept-20 09:56:36

Ahead in the polls for the first time in years.

trisher Tue 29-Sept-20 09:47:51

I saw Justine Greening on TV last night criticising the situation in Universities and discussing what could be done. One of the questions asked was where is Gavin Williamson? But I wondered as well why is an ex-Conservative minister the one criticising the awful situation for students. Where is the opposition? Where are the proposals? When the system is failing why isn't Keir Starmer proposing alternatives?