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Yet another MP who doesn't keep the rules, what a hypocrite!

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janipat Thu 01-Oct-20 19:00:47

www.heraldscotland.com/news/18763865.snp-mp-margaret-ferrier-travelled-scotland-london-testing-positive-covid-19/

And it says she called for Dominic Cummings' resignation, you couldn't make it up!

Parsley3 Fri 02-Oct-20 12:18:42

Utterly irresponsible and incredibly stupid doesn't begin to cover it. She has to go.

luluaugust Fri 02-Oct-20 11:52:20

It would be interesting to know how she was thinking obviously not fit to be an MP if she can't think straight. I have no wish to defend Johnson Snr but he is a private person, albeit one who likes to embarrass his son at every possible opportunity whereas the others apart from Mt Cummings are supposed to be representing us and are paid by us to do so.I guess we are indirectly paying Mr Cummings.

Willow10 Fri 02-Oct-20 11:37:48

Why is it that when MPs do something wrong like this, they always try to excuse it as a 'mistake'. I always thought a mistake was something done accidentally, not a deliberate, arrogant act!

Craftycat Fri 02-Oct-20 11:30:31

Typical case of 'don't do as I do- do as I say!!

henetha Fri 02-Oct-20 11:23:47

It's hard to understand how she could be so utterly stupid.

BusterTank Fri 02-Oct-20 11:22:25

I'm afraid what this country lacks is common sense . People are so rapped up in themselves and only think about themselves , that common sense goes out of the window .

suziewoozie Fri 02-Oct-20 10:55:18

But actually jan I think every single breach should be referred to the Standards Committee and if proved, should automatically result in suspension from the House. The Met say the procedure is not to fine first time usually but to give words of advice/guidance. I don’t think the Met should treat MPs differently but they should be referred automatically to the SC. Maybe the Met advice should change but it should be the same for everyone.

janipat Fri 02-Oct-20 10:48:46

The starting point for all MPs should be that they should follow all guidance/rules/laws regardless.

suziewoozie that is exactly my view. Shame so many of them make "mistakes" code for "I got caught". But what really infuriates me is the way the likes of Cummings, Stanley Johnson, Corbyn etc don't get fined like ordinary members of the public have.

biba70 Fri 02-Oct-20 10:44:35

The inconsistency, which started with Cummings, and went on with others, with Johnson Senior going to Greece, then recently not wearing a mask in a shop, etc- is what is causing so many problems in the Community.

Consistency should be the norm- left, right, centre, friend or foe.

Ramblingrose22 Fri 02-Oct-20 10:42:06

It's a pity she can't be sacked. I wondered why Nicola Sturgeon hadn't sacked her yet - she doesn't shy away from tough decisions like some other types of Ministers I can think of.

Some people seem to believe that as long as they apologise it's somehow OK. In a court of law showing remorse (if regarded as sincere) may help to reduce the sentence but doesn't get the person off - they will still be found guilty.

It's high time that politicians start obeying the rules and the law. I hope she'll be gone after due process.

polnan Fri 02-Oct-20 10:34:28

I only have one word, unbelievable...

suziewoozie Fri 02-Oct-20 10:11:54

She shouldn’t have travelled at all - it’s that simple.

Carooline Fri 02-Oct-20 10:10:10

She should have self isolated in London, I dare say she could have claimed it on expenses!

suziewoozie Fri 02-Oct-20 10:07:14

janipat I agree that it’s a spectrum - some breaches are much much more serious than others. However, the actual spectrum against which we judge and on which we place particular behaviours is what should be firmly established. The starting point for all MPs should be that they should follow all guidance/rules/laws regardless.

Hetty58 Fri 02-Oct-20 10:03:00

They are an embarrassment. The whole world watches this sick pantomime. How can the public have any faith in them?

janipat Fri 02-Oct-20 10:00:34

Callistemon I wasn't defending Cummings and made exactly the arguments you've just said at the time. I just think it's even worse to travel by train, go into the House of Commons and then commit the absolutely unforgivable act of travelling back by train knowing you actually do have the virus and you can potentially spread it to tens if not hundreds of people.
Cummings, Johnson and too many others have no shame at all, I'd like to see the back of all of them.

Callistemon Fri 02-Oct-20 09:51:55

Whitewavemark2 much as I despise Cummings and his actions, his family went by car, not on public transport with contact with many others knowing they had a positive result.

No-one was supposed to be travelling except for essential journeys. What if he'd broken down? I suppose you could call that mitigating circumstances. After all, he needed to test his eyesight.
And no-one was ever sure whether he did or did not have COVID, he and his wife told so many lies.
He's still running the country too. He has no shame.

Sorry, I digress.
They make the rules, the laws, but consider themselves above them.

I am truly vexed (good old-fashioned word, EllanVannin).

Shortlegs Fri 02-Oct-20 09:49:52

She travelled on public transport knowing she had proven positive for the virus. Akin to deliberately drink driving in my book.

Chardy Fri 02-Oct-20 09:46:58

But Cummings didn't go, and she's told the truth. I think they should both go.

jaylucy Fri 02-Oct-20 09:45:32

Yet another one that thinks it's one rule for you and one rule for me. No doubt there are more.

janipat Fri 02-Oct-20 09:35:56

Whitewavemark2 much as I despise Cummings and his actions, his family went by car, not on public transport with contact with many others knowing they had a positive result. Not "no different" at all, but yes I called for his sacking. I don't believe any of Cummings' family had the virus it was just one big lie to cover their holiday up north for his wife's birthday and Easter.
I haven't broken any rules either.

suziewoozie Fri 02-Oct-20 08:07:44

We all know why Lucca. And I think it’s about time that using generic terms like ‘some posters’ or ‘a certain poster’ when it’s clear who is meant should also be against the guidelines. It’s particularly egregious when the targeted poster isn’t even on the thread.

Lucca Fri 02-Oct-20 07:45:48

Love to have been fly on wall when Nicola Sturgeon spoke to her......

Lucca Fri 02-Oct-20 07:41:01

I haven’t either Whitewave

Lucca Fri 02-Oct-20 07:40:26

Why is this being used as an excuse to have a dig at an acknowledged SNP supporter ? As she says there is good and bad behaviour in all parties.
I just don’t get how Stanley Johnson Jeremy corbyn Dom Cummings and ms ferrier can behave so irresponsibly.