Trump taken to hospital

I don’t wish anyone to experience this awful virus BUT perhaps now he realises the virus doesn’t have respect for anyone.

Like most others I can’t stand the man. Unfortunately I can foresee two scenarios - he has a mild case and comes out like the Messiah, saying it’s all a plot from China to take over the World OR he has a really serious reaction (like Boris) and comes out fired up to acknowledge how dangerous the virus can be and encourages the USA to get on board.

Trump has responsibilities to his country and his family. Because of his abject failure, tens and tens of thousands have lost their lives and who knows how many children have been orphaned. I have sympathy for his many victims but none for him at all. He caught the virus almost certainly through his own arrogance and stupidity and directly and indirectly infected many others. He made choices and now he’s living with the consequences . The tragedy will be if he emerges unscathed and thereby feeds the myth that the virus is no big deal and goes onto win the election. There is no good outcome at all that I can envisage

Does he really have it? Has he paid his docs to make it official?
I don't believe a word of what he says. He's probably going for the sympathy vote for the election.

If it so happens he does have it, then i hope he learns humility
while recovering

Why do people think that if you have money it willsave your life?
He will get the best treatment possible, of that I have no doubt, but if it is his time to go no amount of money will stop it.

I would never take comfort knowing that someone I dislike is ill, I think it says a lot about the people who gloat at Boris, Trump or anyone else who has been infected.

Maybe he’ll learn some empathy!!!

A military hospital is a very different entity to a state NHS one.

vegansrock

Yes the government did downplay his illness, mild symptoms, in great form, good spirits etc. Precautionary tests, observation, running the country from his hospital bed etc. I did wonder how anyone could be in ITU and be sitting up and joking, but who knows. Where has anyone said hospital staff lied ? the hospital staff didn’t issue press releases the politicians did. Someone is trying to twist the facts here.

As I saw it, it was only once Boris left hospital that the reports of him being at death’s door and his life being saved by the ‘ 48 hour bedside vigils’ of the two NHS nurses appeared, then were repeated ( and embellished) on social media, whereas previous reports were that he was ‘in good spirits, laughing and joking’ so it depends which scenario you choose to believe. The media definitely did not report the situation truthfully, either with regards to the ‘ precautionary measures only’ or the ‘ near to death’ scenario. I don’t think any NHS staff ever commented on his actual condition, so, as said before, we shall never know.
I am sure that if there was anything which could show Boris in a better light, then Dominic Cummings would not have hesitated to use it.

blueflinders "I was thinking the same thing! He knows he’s losing the election and what better way to delay the voting."

I don't think this can be true as I believe it is not possible to delay the election without an Act of Congress (I am happy to be corrected by any American GNs).

Sadly maddyone online forums thrive on wild and ridiculous imaginary events.Like you, I find the amount of people spouting such guff worrying.....especially if they really believe it.

it is a private military hospital, they can 100% control which staff have access or not- they will be hand chosen.

Also because he has. 14 year old son ......

I hope he recovers as I want to see him beaten at the polls!

am with paddyanne on this one - I do not believe a word of it. All very carefully planned and choreographed to avoid having to debate and do interviews.

Absolutely agree with anniefrance. It’s the people looking after him I feel sorry for. And what about that hair!

Get well soon Heathcliff.
Sorry old situation this thread where people could wish Ill on others because of politics.

Lemongrove

‘All administrations downplay (at first) if a leader is ill, as they want to appear in charge with no panic. When things take a turn for the worse (in Johnson’s case) then they tell the truth. He was in ICU and was very ill, you don’t go into those units for a rest. Neither do NHS staff agree to cover ups/lies.’

The voice of reason. Of course medics protect their patient’s confidentiality, and in the case of public figures, issue very little information.

How do people reach maturity and speculate about public figures in such a ridiculous manner? Johnson was ill, Trump is ill. Facts please, not wild and ridiculous imaginary events.

Kalu

Here’s hoping all medical staff are Trump supporters. Must be very difficult to administer the best of care to someone you despise knowing so many can’t afford any hospital care due to this particular patient.

Ridiculous and insulting thing to say

Medics will do all they can for anyone in their care

No matter what they've done.

I find it difficult to believe that some, thankfully only a few, people in their mature years, are wishing the President of the USA dead. He’s not a likeable man, I don’t think anyone has said that they like or admire him, but wish him dead? Despite him being what he is, there are a fair few world leaders who are infinitely worse than him. I’m not defending him, but I abhor the sentiments of some on here.

paddyanne

yep,he's copying Boris , a wee rest in hospital and a diet while he's there and he can come out looking as if he's been ill...its the new fridge hideaway .

What a ridiculous comment Paddyanne

All administrations downplay (at first) if a leader is ill, as they want to appear in charge with no panic.When things take a turn for the worse (in Johnson’s case) then they tell the truth.
He was in ICU and was very ill, you don’t go into those units for a rest.Neither do NHS staff agree to cover ups/lies.
I don’t believe that Trump isn’t ill either, though we shall have to wait and see if it becomes serious or not.He revels in being healthy and looking healthy and strong, and this will be the last thing on earth he wanted to happen!

The hospital probably has some strange experimental equipment or drugs that can't be transferred to the White House. Helicopter for a 15 mile journey?? Wonder if he wore a mask this time. So much for his hydroxycloroquine recommendation, doesn't seem to have worked for him.

If it isn't fake news then I'm a truly horrible person! I wish him the worst case scenario. I will then breathe a huge sign of relief for the world. Just need Pence to go the same way. Totally agree with struggling.

All the best to Heathcliff.

Heathcliff23. Sending very best wishes for a good recovery. In fact best wishes to anyone suffering from this horrible disease - including DT! As I said before, I do not wish DT ill, but I do think that, through his belligerence, he could have infected many people - and people who cannot afford healthcare. We are very fortunate in this country to have our wonderful NHS.

Grannygrumps1

Fake News!!!!

I was thinking the same thing! He knows he’s losing the election and what better way to delay the voting. Would his ‘team’ really lie about this? Pretty sad if they would with all the genuine cases going on. The guy is indeed dangerous, but I would never wish this hidden bullet on anyone - even if their lack of self protection is non existent.

I don’t like Trump. I don’t like many other world leaders even more than I dislike Trump. However I won’t delight in his illness despite the crass remarks he has made about Covid19. He’s ignorant and rude in many ways, but I refuse to wish the man ill. I agree with others about him getting the absolute best of medical care whilst others in America may not. Not only can he afford it, the medics aren’t going to let the president die on their watch.
As for Boris Johnson, he got the very best care that our wonderful NHS can give, exactly the same as many thousands of other Coronavirus patients. There is no private hospital care for Coronavirus available in Britain, everyone receives NHS care. And thankfully they are still there ready to receive any unfortunate Covid19 patients.