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Jeremy Corbyn suspended from Labour Party

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GrannyGravy13 Thu 29-Oct-20 13:35:00

According to the Guardian on line 1.08pm

A spokesman for the Labour Party said today "In light of comments made today and his failure to retract them subse, the Labour Party has suspended Jeremy. Robyn pending investigation.

He has also had the whip removed from the Parliamentary Labour Party.

This is after the release of the antisemitism report.

Callistemon Mon 09-Nov-20 17:03:41

Iam64

Sara70, are you related to Grandad?

Big River Company: full time night shift at £11.45 per hour and an additional £100 each week subject to start date, location, attendance and shift worked. Overtime available up to £19.40 hourly.

Are there any jobs going at your place, Sara70?

Callistemon Mon 09-Nov-20 16:56:34

It’s the new policy from the Labour leadership: do as we say, not as we do.

Do you mean it hasn't changed?
What a pity, I had high hopes when Corbyn and Momentum went.

Anniebach Mon 09-Nov-20 15:40:04

Len MacClusky said everyone should stick with the party

lemongrove Mon 09-Nov-20 15:22:21

I was just going to ask that too!?

Iam64 Mon 09-Nov-20 14:45:56

Sara70, are you related to Grandad?

Sara70 Mon 09-Nov-20 12:46:15

Grany, ??? very well said.

Really must go and get my head down now, but really do not feel like sleeping following them granting me one night off last night after eleven nights of working ten to twelve hour continuous shift working.

I felt "so honoured" to be given that privilege I was speechless when told. ??

Grany Mon 09-Nov-20 12:32:57

It’s the new policy from the Labour leadership: do as we say, not as we do.

Why is it permissible for Keir Starmer, David Evans, Angela Rayner, Lisa bloody Nandy, uncle Tom Cobley and all in the shadow cabinet and the NEC to spout any tripe they like about the suspended former Labour leader, while gagging rank-and-file party members?

It doesn't Party rules certainly don't allow for it.

Sara70 Mon 09-Nov-20 12:27:14

I will repost what I asked in an alternative thread just in case someone has some information.

I there asked, does anyone know what has happened to the suspension hearing that is/was supposed to be held quickly regarding the Jeremy Corbyn issue. We were told at the time of his suspension from the Labour Party that a hearing into the matter would be held in no more time than a week.

Now it would seem that Corbyn is not being given an opportunity to defend himself as is allowed for under Labour Party rules and has to sit in the House of Commons without the party whip. So, does Starmer & Co have no real case to offer against him and now are just playing for time????????

This is a case of the Labour Party executive not handling a matter as it should be handled, and in the meantime, the anger on the left of the movement grows by the day threatening a huge split in the party which may never be repaired.

In the meantime, I had better get my head down for a few hours before once again commencing another night shift on a casual zero hours contract at the "fulfilment centre". You know, we are the sort of workers and people that Starmers Labour Party does not like to mention or even wish to acknowledge the existence of in Britains "Labour market."

Iam64 Mon 09-Nov-20 12:22:38

now now eazybee, let's not bring the regs or a voice of reason, let's all just continue the martyrdom of Mr Corbyn

eazybee Mon 09-Nov-20 12:10:34

I believe if someone is undergoing disciplinary action, suspended or not, colleagues/fellow workers are forbidden to discuss it.

Sara70 Mon 09-Nov-20 12:09:26

lemongrove

Oh if only they would Sara !
Then at the next election Keir Starmer would likely form the next government and the far left consigned to the sort of position somewhere below the Lib Dems.?

It takes money lemongrove to build and establish a political party and keep it relevant in the public eye. That level of funding the left will have from the trade unions should they decide to split from this squabbling excuse for a socialist party that is Labour now. Of course Starmer could then sell the present Labour Party to the Bankers, Arms manufacturers and the likes of Rupert Murdoch for funding as Blair did, but we all know how that ended up.

Anniebach Mon 09-Nov-20 12:02:33

How to never again win a general election, 1983 ?

lemongrove Mon 09-Nov-20 11:58:53

Oh if only they would Sara !
Then at the next election Keir Starmer would likely form the next government and the far left consigned to the sort of position somewhere below the Lib Dems.?

Sara70 Mon 09-Nov-20 11:54:22

Totally disgusting behaviour by the Labour Party executive and their lapdog General Secretary David Evans. I was just asking on another thread what had happened to the hearing into the Corbyn suspension.

I have the ever growing feeling that it is time for the left in the Labour movement to leave this shambles of a political party and with the funding normally given to the Labour Party start a fresh organisation based In the true traditional Labour socialist values

Grany Mon 09-Nov-20 11:42:53

Labour banned from talking about Jeremy Corbyn's possible expulsion from party

EXCLUSIVE General secretary David Evans warned Constituency Labour Parties in a letter not to discuss 'any aspect of individual disciplinary cases'

Labour's top official has warned members against talking about ex-leader Jeremy Corbyn ’s possible expulsion.

The alert applies to all branch meetings “and any other party units” who have also been told they may not pass motions in Mr Corbyn’s defence.

It followed a meeting of Labour MPs last week where Mr Corbyn’s name was not mentioned once in a discussion about the anti-Semitism report which led to his suspension.

An MP who was at the meeting – addressed by party leader Keir Starmer – said: “In 40 years I’ve never seen anything like it. It was a bit scary.

“Starmer spoke about the report at length, very persuasively.

“He never mentioned JC once. Neither did anyone else in the following discussion.

"It’s like 1938 in the USSR, with the show trials. I’m not, and never have been, a fan of JC but it makes me feel a bit nervous.”

Tommy Corbyn
@TommyCorbyn

David Evans, undoubtedly with the backing of Sir Keir, is attempting to silence any criticism of this completely outrageous suspension for comments that were "completely true".

Don't let them. This is insane.

#ReinstateJeremyCorbyn

David Rosenberg
@davidjrosenberg

I'm trying hard to understand current Labour Party rules. Keir Starmer, Angela Rayner, Margaret Hodge, Ruth Smeeth are allowed to comment on the EHRC report but the MP for Islington for 37 years, and an LP member for 55, is not . Have I got that right?

Apparently Jeremy Corbyn has been ordered to remove the word “Labour” from his Twitter bio.

It was still there when I last checked, and he’ll still be more Labour than you’ll ever be, Sir Keir.

Calls for Corbyn reinstatement is proliferating

I wonder how well Keir Starmer thinks his clampdown on support for Jeremy Corbyn is going.

I know this is yesterday's news Jeremy Corbyn suspension

But this seems unfair Labour is supposed to be for the people a workers party. Starmer is not good leadership in my opinion it's disunity.

Very Glad about News of new President Joe Biden And Trump out Good.

Fennel Wed 04-Nov-20 20:19:24

Sara my comment about the argument was meant to be tongue in cheek, but maybe bad taste.
As for the Unions, I've posted a few times in the past that the LP would be lost without them, financially and in spirit.
Many people don't realise the advantage the Tories have through their rich donors, compared with Labour. Just basic things like a permanent meeting place. Let alone funding an election.
And working union members are a large part of the people that the party was created for.

Galaxy Wed 04-Nov-20 20:01:25

grin

Sara70 Wed 04-Nov-20 19:58:05

Fennel

Maybe Corbyn and Starmer had a row and fell out. I wouldn't be surprised, they're as different as chalk and cheese.

Who cares if Starmer has had a row with Corbyn, as that would be just another bickering match in the Labour party. What really matters to the near four million trade union members who pay for the upkeep of the Labour Party through their union subscription is where is the recognition in the Labour Party regarding those on such matters as zero hours contracts and enforced gig economy working.

Under the above conditions, I reported to the online order fulfilment centre (as it is called by the company that owns it which carries the name of a large volume of water in South America) at 10:45 yesterday evening. I then spent the night until 10:45am this morning moving trucks and vans on and off the loading banks with only a twenty five minute break throughout that period. As I was leaving the centre I was informed by the agency I am working for that due to the volume of work they want me back on site at 8:30pm tonight. That means with taking travelling time between home and the centre into account I have had seven hours rest between shifts.

So, for all the money that me and all other trade union members paying the political subscription have given the Labour Party over the years, we have finished up with laws which allow working conditions such as this. There are Laws against antisemitism, Islamophobia and many other forms of racism and inequality and where those laws are broken the authorities should take action against those responsible. Such matters should not be a source of continuous bickering and argument in the Labour Party with all other matters such as the working conditions members and associate members going totally unremarked on.

The above is why I and so many others now wish to see the trade union funding of this excuse for socialist political party cease and that money be put towards a fresh start for the left of politics in Britain. I have always had respect for those people who for years have voted for the Green party in Britain as they place their cross on the ballot paper knowing their party has no chance of forming a government but it speaks in entirety of their views. That is what now many that make up the left wish to see come about in Britain. A party that truly represents the working people, especially manual workers. Perhaps it will not get elected into power, but it will be ours and paid for by us, with representatives that are drawn from the ranks of real working people as the Labour Party once held within its ranks.

I am now off to the "fulfilment centre" once again for how many hours I have not a clue. So, goodnight.

Iam64 Wed 04-Nov-20 18:36:15

trisher, I agree, its likely a Unite activist could have similar views to another. In this case, Grandad and Sara share a similar conversational/writing style.

Fennel Wed 04-Nov-20 16:56:11

Maybe Corbyn and Starmer had a row and fell out. I wouldn't be surprised, they're as different as chalk and cheese.

Grany Wed 04-Nov-20 16:50:19

Good explanation
Labour Party suspends Jeremy Corbyn over nothing.

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=vEX3GcgRovo&fbclid=IwAR3E-xHhGu56HXW8drZdz0VNmM2YSYJvlLELZjFnm603ZN6kIp-cAnzIoXE

trisher Wed 04-Nov-20 09:47:22

So two people supporting unions and being left wing are similar- what a surprise! The surprising thing is that there aren't more people on GN from the Union movement and so many with what they term centre left and I call Tory-lite views. But then perhaps not. Those working 10 hours a day on zero hours contracts don't really have the leisure time to post but who cares about them?

Anniebach Wed 04-Nov-20 08:45:09

We will have a repeat of the 1983 election and the years which
followed.

1983 election was a disaster, then came the far left working against Kinnock which gave us the thatcher years.

Glorybee Wed 04-Nov-20 08:34:01

Iam64 -
“RamblingRose22 - I read Sara70's posts and thought her writing style, as well as political views to be reminiscent of Grandad.”

I thought exactly the same!

Iam64 Wed 04-Nov-20 08:21:06

RamblingRose22 - I read Sara70's posts and thought her writing style, as well as political views to be reminiscent of Grandad.

I wonder if some current members and MP's will go away and form a new Independent Labour Party. Part of me hopes they do, though that will condemn the country to permanent Conservative government by splitting the vote. Of course, that's what they want isn't it.

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