Jeremy Corbyn suspended from Labour Party

Starmer is the one not following the EHRC didn't he read it?

Finally, if Starmer wants to follow the suggestions of the EHRC he will reinstate Corbyn forthwith. This is because that document explicitly protects freedom of expression, with enhanced protection under Article 10 to protect LP members who ‘express their opinions on internal Party matters, such as the scale of antisemitism within the Party, based on their own experience and within the law’.

He is the one causing the division and disunity

Labour Starmer should be attacking the Tory Government not the Labour Party

Agree MaizieD

He is a gift to the tory party

MaizieD If Starmer had just ignored Corbyn's statement it would have been yesterday's news by now. He has chosen to keep it the focus of media attention by suspending him and withdrawing the whip. It's either completely foolish or some devious plan, either way it reflects badly on him as a leader He's the one choosing what to focus on. He's the gift to the Tory party.

I agree with you trisher

Here's a bit of Labour Grassroots. Not for Centrists

labourgrassroots.com/jeremy-corbyn-labour-hero-1/?fbclid=IwAR2CCVlW5MiNC1_WViZJIdnkBvnJv-B3791wfp3LTyKUqwvYasVcecBGIzg

You can't take away what he and Labour achieved in bringing hope a fairer politics for many despite the MSM

I'm with MaizieD and anniebach on this, which won't be a surprise to anyone.
I'm not surprised by the anti Starmer posts, just very disappointed

If Starmer had just ignored Corbyn's statement it would have been yesterday's news by now.

Give me strength

From Starmer's statement, which Corbyn knew about in advance

And if – after all the pain, all the grief, and all the evidence in this report, there are still those who think there’s no problem with anti-semitism in the Labour Party. That it’s all exaggerated, or a factional attack.

Then, frankly, you are part of the problem too. And you should be nowhere near the Labour Party either.

He could hardly ignore Corbyn after saying that, could he?

Corbyn has undermined every Labour leader during his 40 years in Parliament. He is an oppositionist not a consensus builder.
this feels worse than when Militant were taking over the LP. Starmer has his work cut out to build a party that the majority of the electorate will vote for. What's the point of a pure party that the majority of people in this country won't vote for, thus condemning us to years of austerity etc.
There won't be a revolution comrades, no matter how you long for society to break down to the point where we'll be putting up the barricades.

Well, I am sure Tony Blair is heaving an enormous sigh of relief that he is no longer the worst leader the Labour Party has ever had. Methinks, no leader other than JC or someone from his fold, will ever be regarded as a good leader by his followers. As for falling membership, this was happening long before this issue arose and much of it during the latter part of Corbyn's watch. IMO JC needs to earn the right to the Whip again by showing he is on the side of those trying to pull the Party together over the anti-semitism debacle, which arose on his watch. I wait with bated breath. Let's be honest here, when did defying the Whip ever bother JC?

It’s Corbyn that’s a gift to the Tory party. And he has been for years. Labour will win the next election and we can turn this country back into a decent place but it isn’t going to happen with all this infighting. I was feeling happier than I have been for ages with the prospect of a vaccine for the virus and Trump on his way out but the constant attacks on Keir Starmer (who, imo is a thoroughly decent human being and potentially a great PM who will be good or this country) is really upsetting me. The things being said about him on Facebook are vile, but these are on some Labour pages that have been pretty nasty to me, too.

I am not disappointed Iam , I expected it, I said shortly after
Corbyn became leader it would be the death of the Labour Party , I was right.

What the voting public want is of no importance to the Corbynites . The country can suffer a Tory government as long as the far left can run the Labour Party.

Forget 1983 brought us the Thatcher years, forget Corbyn has
brought about 10 years of this tory government and will bring
more years of the same.

Annie, I do hope you're wrong and we aren't heading for the death of the Labour Party.
MayBee70, I'm upset about the vile abuse being directed at Starmer on various facebook and other sites. I see him as a decent man, who could lead the LP to victory at the next election. What is it about people who support Corbyn and refuse/deny/minimise the concerns about anti semitism, who would rather this country is run by tories than by a Labour Party they don't see as pure enough.
The disgusting abuse thrown at Margaret Hodge, the bullying, the abuse, it comes from one section of the LP. I begin to think a split is inevitable.

Ian Lavery is threatening to bring about a leadership challenge over how Starmer has led and totally divided the party since taking up the office. It will be interesting to see how Starmer now reacts to this revolt backed by many on the left of the Parliamentary party.

To avoid a full blown leadership ballot taking place which would involve the whole Labour movement and not just the Labour Party membership, Starmer may request a closed ballot of Labour MPs to see how much support he retains amongst them. Should it be that more than a third of those MPs demonstrate no confidence in the Starmer continued leadership his position would become untenable.

Of course, he could just back down and restore the whip to Corbyn but that would make him in the eyes of very many a "lame duck" leader for the rest of his time in office.

Media report on the Lavery challenge can be found here:-
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jeremy-corbyn-ally-ian-lavery-threatens-to-challenge-sir-kier-starmer-for-labour-leadership-qx6xzt857

I actually wish now that Keir would just return to the law and let Labour die a slow and painful death. They really don’t deserve him. As for me, I shall, yet again be politically homeless.

Good grief, Starmer has divided the Labour Party ?

No, no, no, Corbyn divided the Labour Party and is still doing
so.

MaizieD

^If Starmer had just ignored Corbyn's statement it would have been yesterday's news by now.^

Give me strength

From Starmer's statement, which Corbyn knew about in advance

And if – after all the pain, all the grief, and all the evidence in this report, there are still those who think there’s no problem with anti-semitism in the Labour Party. That it’s all exaggerated, or a factional attack.

Then, frankly, you are part of the problem too. And you should be nowhere near the Labour Party either.

He could hardly ignore Corbyn after saying that, could he?

Corbyn did not say either of those things- what he actually said
The EHRC’s report shows that when I became Labour leader in 2015, the Party’s processes for handling complaints were not fit for purpose. Reform was then stalled by an obstructive party bureaucracy. But from 2018, Jennie Formby and a new NEC that supported my leadership made substantial improvements, making it much easier and swifter to remove antisemites. My team acted to speed up, not hinder the process.
“Anyone claiming there is no antisemitism in the Labour Party is wrong. Of course there is, as there is throughout society, and sometimes it is voiced by people who think of themselves as on the left.
“Jewish members of our party and the wider community were right to expect us to deal with it, and I regret that it took longer to deliver that change than it should.
“One antisemite is one too many, but the scale of the problem was also dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents inside and outside the party, as well as by much of the media. That combination hurt Jewish people and must never be repeated.
“My sincere hope is that relations with Jewish communities can be rebuilt and those fears overcome. While I do not accept all of its findings, I trust its recommendations will be swiftly implemented to help move on from this period.”
No sign of Starmer implementing things, of course he actually is contravening two of the recommendations of the report. I suppose in some way it suits him to victimise someone, stops any real inspecton of what he has actually done since he became leader.
I advise those who can't see what is happening to read the statement from a Jewish constituent of Corbyn that Grany posted earlier today.

Certainly has turned into a very genuine Black Friday for Starmer.

It might be what has to happen. It happened with kinnock.

No. Not for Starmer. For the future of this country. And I can’t believe that some people are gleefully watching this unfold.

Corbyn did not say either of those things- what he actually said

Sorry, trisher. I can't have made it very clear that I was quoting from Starmer's statement.

Thankyou for publishing Corbyn's statement which backs up the point I was trying to make

...but the scale of the problem was also dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents inside and outside the party, as well as by much of the media.

Starmer: "And if – after all the pain, all the grief, and all the evidence in this report, there are still those who think there’s no problem with anti-semitism in the Labour Party. That it’s all exaggerated, or a factional attack.

Corbyn's words almost exactly mirror Starmer's. How more explicit would you want it to be\/

Sadly MayBee some are gleeful

I feel it is all gone past just being about Corbyn for he is now the past. It is now about Kier Starmer and his actions since becoming the party leader. In that he seems to have a lack of perception and when to grasp an initiative, or when to stand back and let good enough be.

His lack of action in the Cummins "test my eyesight by driving to Durham trip" was the first sign of the above weaknesses and since that time he seems to be welded to the Parliamentary benches when he should have far more "out there" and on the offensive over the government handling of both the Covid crisis and Brexit.

His late reaction to many events seems to be matched only by his lack of perception his words and actions (when they do actually take place) can have within his own party and the Labour movement in general. That lack of perception has brought him, the Labour Party to the crisis it is in now.

Of course, it affects all of us as the general public in seeing and having the Labour party as the main political opposition and brake on this out of control government.

By the way, I have not heard any comment from Starmer on the Priti Patel bullying situation that has developed today. Should he not have been out there attacking Johnson as soon as knowledge of what is in the report was known. All that seems to have been said in the news so far today is that the Labour Party are asking for the full report to be released.

Not good enough.

You need to look at Twitter if you are really keen to find out whether Starmer has commented before making false accusations that he hasn't.

As for "being out there" there is a lockdown you know!

I think that you my have made a good point there Nanfer5g
People are perhaps still going on about Jeremy Corbyn because there is not that much of substance to say about Keir Starmer so far.
I voted for him, and hoped he would bring the party together and take the fight on to the Conservatives but I have been rather disappointed so far.
On the day that he should have been absolutely blasting the Government about all the money they have wasted giving lucrative contracts to their friends, instead of to reputable well established companies, he took all the focus away from that and towards Jeremy Corbyn .

I understand that he felt he ought to support the Government over some of the responses to the pandemic, but there should be limits to that support.

Yes, he can handle Prime Ministers questions but that is mainly just a bit of entertainment for journalists.

I wonder if what made him a good lawyer is perhaps not suitable to make him an inspiring politician. He is used to procedure and fairness and following the rules, which are all worthy attributes but he perhaps needs to grab the initiative a bit more now.
Like you say, what about the finding in the Pritti Patel situation and even more so, about the public sector pay freeze.

Has he made some statements on Twitter? Ramblingrose22
I will go and have a look.

Do you think then, that the problem is that the main stream media is not giving enough publicity to his views?

Ramblingrose22

You need to look at Twitter if you are really keen to find out whether Starmer has commented before making false accusations that he hasn't.

As for "being out there" there is a lockdown you know!

Starmer should have been "out there" in front on the cameras condemning Priti Patel for bullying and Johnson's action in protecting her. All the News channels have been conducting interviews throughout both lockdowns in a secure manner with no problems.

Just being sat in his office and posting on Twitter is not good enough for the person who is supposed to be the leader of her majesties opposition.