Jeremy Corbyn suspended from Labour Party

Whilst the far left are in the Labour Party it cannot be United,
I wish they would support their true home, the communist party.

The communist party said, when Corbyn became leader they
would not stand in a general election.

JC should simply have acknowledged the report's findings and expressed regret that these things had happened on his watch. KS had little choice but to act has he did.

Starmer is about as two faced as any politician can be. How anyone imagines he will unite the LP I really don't understand. I watched the video Grany thank you. The shenanigans in the LP office are unbelievable. And aren't these the people Starmer has paid off? I wonder if there was an element of hush money in that payment? Did he want his name kept out of things?
Calls on social media for Corbyn to start his own party.

GrannyGravy it is vile,

It’s worse than that - SB has never been my cup of tea but this is beyond the pale

The Guardian has published this cartoon on the day two innocent people were decapitated in France. I find it to be in very poor taste!

Read the Report in video and get a different side to the story The 800 page with the right constenly undermining the leader Using Antisemitism as a Weapon to defeat the left and Jeremy Corbyn

turns out CCHQ has been keeping clips of Starmer praising Corbyn

twitter.com/Cornish_Damo/status/1321851920571654146?s=20

I think this is an excellent take on the whole sorry saga. It’s by Margaret Hodge
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/29/antisemitism-labour-party-echr-report

It has always been a Catch 22 for Corbyn.
I think he is a decent man with a strong commitment to anti racism..which includes anti- semitism. Because he voiced his support for the rights of Palestinians he exposed an Achilles heel.

His political opponents knew they could use this to imply he would therefore be anti Semitic and fail to deal with anti Semitic incidents. They could also, within the party, create difficulties in investigations and hinder processes and then blame Corbyn.

Most of the media is fearful of socialism & thus anti Corbyn, and his more socialist views. So they were happy to support & promote this false view of him as an anti- Semite.

He was not an effective leader and was unable to
a) deal openly with his internal political opponents
or
b) demonstrate more clearly his lifelong fight against Anti- Semitism.

Really great guy. Well done Channel 4 for actually listening to a Jewish Labour Party members voice. It’s about time. Agree with every word.

Channel 4 News
@Channel4News

twitter.com/MettlesomeTeri/status/1321951259004444673?s=20

twitter.com/kennardmatt/status/1321861137747582980?s=20

MaizieD

Starmer 'shared' his speech with Corbyn on Wednesday. So Corbyn knew what was in it and went ahead with his 'exaggeration' comment.

Apparently Angela Raynor, spoke to Corbyn after his statement (and before the discipline committee took action) and urged him to issue a clarification, but he refused.

Exactly MaizieD. All Corbyn had to do was accept the reports findings. Instead, he reverted to his usual defence, blaming everyone else, particularly the awful right wing main stream media. Implicit in that, is blaming the general public for being brainwashed, so not making him prime minister.

His arrogance is staggering. It's like the build up to the last election, when local supporters reported that his name was the first thing on the lips of former labour supporters who "can't vote Labour with yon mon in charge".

Sarnia

varian

It is interesting to read the differing views of Labour Party members and supporters here.

I would like to ask whether any of you think that the Labour Party is about to split.

Why do you have to be trained to be anti-Semitic? Surely, basic decency extended to all, irrespective of colour, religion, opinions, political views, sexual orientation etc is how we should all act. If we treated others as we would like to be treated the world would be a better place.

Firstly, people need to be able to recognise anti-semiticism, including unconscious bias. Secondly, they need to know the correct procedures within their organisation, if they are faced with it.

Starmer 'shared' his speech with Corbyn on Wednesday. So Corbyn knew what was in it and went ahead with his 'exaggeration' comment.

trisher Corbyn led the party and set the tone. The anti-semitism was in his own private ofice and among his closest advisors. He should have made it clear to them that anti-semitism was unacceptable and sacked those close to him who by word or deed supported it. That is what being a leader entails.

He was anti-semitic, not because he said or did anything anti-semitic, but because by doing nothing, he implicitly endorsed it - that or he was scared of his advisors and too cowardly to face them down and sack them.

Not the EHRC (obviously). Within the Labour party.

Starmer had better watch out. He is as liable as JC to have his own people working against him. I hope for his sake not, but it looks inevitable.

varian

It is interesting to read the differing views of Labour Party members and supporters here.

I would like to ask whether any of you think that the Labour Party is about to split.

Why do you have to be trained to be anti-Semitic? Surely, basic decency extended to all, irrespective of colour, religion, opinions, political views, sexual orientation etc is how we should all act. If we treated others as we would like to be treated the world would be a better place.

Why would the EHRC start a witch hunt ?

Are you suggesting the EHRC is wrong GagaJo?

Lemongrove, you're entitled to your opinion.

Mine, and many thousands of others, is that it is a witch hunt.

Sparkling

The evidence is well documented and heard. All his associations with violent murderous organisations and yet the straggly little band still maintain this highly privileged man is innocent. It's beyond belief really.Thank goodness he's out and his salary should be stopped. he should reimburse uk for all that time he was not doing his job for this country. Whatever you think of Boris, he does love this country. Jeremy should relocate to one of the countries with whom he supports the organisations that we abhor here.

1 Why should Corbyn's salary be stopped? He's still an MP.

2 I'm afraid I don't think Johnson loves his country or the people who live in it - especially Scotland and Northern Ireland. I don't think he loves anybody except himself. He might come up with a few jingoistic catchphrases, but they mean as little to him as most of the other stuff he comes out with.

Russ on twitter.

This is more of a general comment about politicians than a specific one about Corbyn. So don't pile on.

There is a class of conviction politician who, over time, become convinced they're infallible, simply by dint of a few good / popular acts. And it destroys them...

Thatcher won the Falklands war, and it made her feel invincible. She destroyed Foot, was in the hot-seat when USSR fell, won election after election. It went to her head, she started making woeful decisions, and it ended her movement for 20 years...

You can very easily argue (and I'd agree) many of her decisions were awful BEFORE the ego took over. But by her own standards, she was successful, cos she was capable of taking enough people with her and acting rationally.

Then hubris. Poll Tax. End.

Blair came to think himself indallie after a few incontrovertible successes: Drop The Debt, peace in Ireland, ending the Kosovo war. He began to think a thing was good simply because he backed it, rather than only backing good things.

Then hubris. Iraq. End.

Corbyn was the UnBlair. He opposed the incontrovertibly BAD things Blair did (Iraq, Afghanistan), was proven right on those things, and was greeted with singing, adoring crowds after defeating the continuity Blairite candidates.

I'm not making a special case of him in any way, other than his hubris came about without actually winning an election or delivering a single policy. But he just as much of a victim of hubris as Blair or Thatcher.

It appears to me that Jeremy Corbyn has come to think he is innately Good. And therefore anything he does is innately Good. It infers upon him a sense of infallibility, and that, in turn, leads to him thinking it's OK to deny the findings of the independent EHRC.

Blair did the same thing: believed himself a Saint, therefore how could criticism be real?

The problem is, fans of each of these politicians refuse to accept it. They're locked in a feedback loop, endlessly reinforcing that sense of infallibility.

I don't especially blame Corbyn for the hubris. I don't dislike him, and now he's left a job he was clearly not right for, I rarely think about him at all.

But I do kinda pity him, because he's suffering all the delusions of power without having achieved any of the successes.

I think, on a purely personal level, it would be good for him to withdraw from this now. Fighting on smacks of vanity, and the idea Starmer, Rachel Riley and the EHRC are in league to discredit him... honestly, I doubt one of them wants to give him the publicity.

His friends should advise him to retire. So should Blair's, frankly. This isn't about having a pop at Corbyn, although you probably won't believe me. It's about recognising when your moment has passed: clinging on is so unhealthy.

When Corbyn was elected leader I left the Labour Party. I flirted briefly with the LibDems but would dearly love to return to the Labour Party. Starmer seems a solid sort of guy and looks like PM material. Thing is, until I come across some hard evidence of anti-Semitism, rather than fleeting comments from various MPs and members of the House of Lords that it has happened, I am at a loss. I understand that people are greatly upset, but what has been said that actually upset them. Family members and friends are equally at a loss.

JC could just have accepted the criticism shrugged his shoulders and accepted that he got it wrong. The fact is that he allowed himself to be manipulated by his staff members, judging by his performance during the Brexit debacle it all rings true. He only ever sat on the fence without any clear direction and it seems the antisemitism issue was handled in the same way.

Top marks to Starmer