Desperately keeping Cummings (sorry)

I’m not quite so sure that populism has such a strong footing now that its biggest proponent and satellites like Bannon have gone. Johnson is now isolated without his support mechanism of Cummings etc. So I am hoping that we might see the last of it and the divisions caused by the vote leave lot and Johnson with the north/south myths etc

I don’t think that the divisions have reached quite the level that we see in the USA but they are there and if the myths can be stopped before it gets any worse so much the better.

I see the woman that Cummings had thrown out of No 10 has been awarded +£50000.

He must owe the rest of the country billions for the untold harm he has done.

Elegran

If I were a conspiracy theorist, I would be very suspicious of the combination of him saying that by December he would have done what he set out to do and the state of chaos he leaves behind him now (November) that he is departing. Just what did he set out to do?

Thank goodness you're not a conspiracy theorist. Neither am I!

It's a little concerning that two of Symonds' allies are apparently Priti Patel and Munira Mirza (Johnson's former top aide and wife of Dougie Smith, former organiser of orgies for swingers and partner of "Killing Kittens" owner).

Fat and frying pan come to mind.

The "less divisiveness" isn't about voters. It's about the Tory MPs in Parliament, some of whom are a very nasty crowd. Indirectly, Cummings might have done people a favour by shutting them out.

Whitewavemark2

The suggestion is that Johnson wants a more inclusive less divisive message coming from No 10.

Blimey it didn’t take him long he soon got the message!

The death of populism is taking place.

No, I think populism is just finding its feet.

The Conservative Party has its own culture war between the "red wall" MPs and traditional shire Tories.

Money will be at the centre of it, so it will be interesting to see what Sunak does. He has his own ambitions, as does Gove.

Johnson will want to remain to be seen as the man of the people, so will almost certainly make populist decisions.

Or more

It doesn’t matte4 does it what message Johnson wants coming out of No 10 - it will all be lies and fluff and laughing at us and giving contracts to mates and appointing brothers to the Lords and the wives of Tory MPs to head government organisations and then laughing at us again and making mire plans to feather all their nests.

The suggestion is that Johnson wants a more inclusive less divisive message coming from No 10.

Blimey it didn’t take him long he soon got the message!

The death of populism is taking place.

And now Trump is in the long drawn out process of going the world will not have the distraction of another incompetent leader. Johnson will take centre stage.

FarNorth 'bad soap opera' is about right. I keep thinking that I must have slipped into an alternative reality - or I'm having a nightmare.

The rest of the world are watching the circus too. I wonder what they make of it? Anyone else feel embarrassed?

All SPADs get the use of the Downing Street rose garden to sneer at the British public in the midst of a pandemic. He’ll never be forgiven for that and neither will Johnson for facilitating a national humiliation.

lemongrove

I think Cummings has been given way too much credit.....some are regarding him as somewhere between Machiavelli and the Devil ( with a bit of Svengali thrown in.)
Spads come and go....he’s had a long run but it’s time to go.

Really? Really ?

quizqueen

Remind me what Carrie was elected to do!!!

Or what appointment in government she has.

It does sound as if the Tory government is 'a nest of vipers' and have decided to blame Symonds.

Everything about this so-called government is like a bad soap opera.

I think Cummings has been given way too much credit.....some are regarding him as somewhere between Machiavelli and the Devil ( with a bit of Svengali thrown in.)
Spads come and go....he’s had a long run but it’s time to go.

He has gone, seen leaving Downing Street with his box. Good riddance!

Lemon, if Cummings wasn’t running Brexit policy, what do “you” think he was there for, he obviously wasn’t part of the negotiating team, he was the puppeteer pulling the strings.

The UK has suffered very badly in the pandemic, because of our incompetent government, but we or they were never responsible for the covid pandemic arriving on our shores.

Brexit, on the other hand, is a self inflicted harmful disaster.

Matthew Payne

Boris Johnson couldn't run a tap,Carrie Symonds shouldn't be running anything. Tory Government rotten and corrupt to the core. People dying by dozen whilst parasites cash in. Absolutely sick with or without Dominic Cummings. No masking that !

He’s not the only advisor left in Downing St you know?
Am sure they will manage without him.
He has no hand in the actual negotiating with the EU, he isn’t part of that team.
Covid is a crisis, but is a managed one, the NHS is coping, and we are no worse off than many other countries.

Has he left the country in a better place ? I think not.

varian

I'm not so sure. One of the most poisonous appointees of the Vote Leave government is this "Lord" David Frost, our so-called negotiator, who seems determined to force through a no-deal brexit.

I read somewhere that Frost was on the verge of resigning. I guess it is all to do with the war in No 10

that was removed.

By "him" I mean Cummings.

If I were a conspiracy theorist, I would be very suspicious of the combination of him saying that by December he would have done what he set out to do and the state of chaos he leaves behind him now (November) that he is departing. Just what did he set out to do?

We do have decent MPs as a direct result of the General Election; it was the dross was removed.

Voters are not nearly a stupid as some like to assume.