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Desperately keeping Cummings (sorry)

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GagaJo Thu 12-Nov-20 09:25:30

Fight with Carrie. One aide has left. Cummings threatening to walk out (let him go was the cry!). But still. Why is she interfering? They're bad enough without WAGS getting involved.

uk.yahoo.com/news/lee-cain-resigns-boris-johnsons-211237124.html

silverlining48 Fri 13-Nov-20 07:34:32

Cummings is leaving by Christmas, wondering where he is going?

vegansrock Fri 13-Nov-20 04:26:11

Rats leaving the sinking ship comes to mind.

NotSpaghetti Fri 13-Nov-20 01:44:43

Of course it doesn't really matter who comes and who goes, it's the same bunch of chums running things.

Allegra Stratton’s husband is the Spectator’s political editor, James Forsyth – and Rishi Sunak was the best man at their wedding.

They are lots of them linked to the Spectator and Boris Johnson was the former editor of the magazine and Dominic Cummings the husband of the magazine’s commissioning editor, Mary Wakefield.

MayBee70 Thu 12-Nov-20 23:38:10

Not sticking around to be responsible for the carnage he has created then.....

B9exchange Thu 12-Nov-20 23:23:59

According to the BBC, Dominic Cummings will be leaving his position by the end of the year, as he said he would last January.

Callistemon Thu 12-Nov-20 23:19:44

I'd love to know what proof there is that Carrie vetoed the appointment of Cain.

Yes, is it all innuendo, perhaps based on a chance overheard remark?

We are told on GN never to believe anything we hear in the MSM!

GagaJo Thu 12-Nov-20 20:57:48

Matelda

I find all the jeering comments about Carrie Symonds being a WAG and needing to get back into the nursery quite upsetting. She is a former Director of Communications for the Conservative Party, just like Lee Cain - oh, but of course he's a man!

But she isn't right now.

It's like me leaving my teaching job, then going back in and telling kids what to do. Not on at all.

She's just a civilian now.

Iam64 Thu 12-Nov-20 20:52:12

It certainly isn't endearment.

Summerlove Thu 12-Nov-20 20:49:43

Davidhs

Kamala Harris is pretty popular amongst Democrats even though she is not a hard line liberal and gets criticism for being too hard on blacks.
The use of first name started with Hillary who should have won the previous election, it’s a term of endearment and not meant to diminish the person who I’m sure is titled Senator Harris officially. Popular she may be but got elected on Biden’s ticket she is number 2, it’s what happens in the next 4 yrs that matters.

I firmly disagree that it’s endearment.

Callistemon Thu 12-Nov-20 20:45:12

NoddingGanGan

Carrie needs to get back into the nursery. The country voted for Boris, not her.

Carrie needs to get back into the nursery
What decade are you living in?

She's brighter than him.
Let him be the stay at home Dad.

But she's probably not as Machiavellian as Cummings.

Davidhs Thu 12-Nov-20 20:31:19

Kamala Harris is pretty popular amongst Democrats even though she is not a hard line liberal and gets criticism for being too hard on blacks.
The use of first name started with Hillary who should have won the previous election, it’s a term of endearment and not meant to diminish the person who I’m sure is titled Senator Harris officially. Popular she may be but got elected on Biden’s ticket she is number 2, it’s what happens in the next 4 yrs that matters.

MayBee70 Thu 12-Nov-20 18:47:26

Matelda

I find all the jeering comments about Carrie Symonds being a WAG and needing to get back into the nursery quite upsetting. She is a former Director of Communications for the Conservative Party, just like Lee Cain - oh, but of course he's a man!

I thought she was sacked from that position. Or was it another one? She was sacked from something. They all seem to have been sacked at one time or another.

Summerlove Thu 12-Nov-20 18:33:13

I read an interesting article about the American election, about how people were using Joe Biden’s surname but Kamala Harris’s first name. That it showed an implicit bias towards the strength of men and sexism.

It’s interesting to see the same thing happening here

Dinahmo Thu 12-Nov-20 18:15:18

Women are often the power behind the throne and I'm sure that in the privacy of the bedroom powerful men have listened to their partners - pillow talk!

If Johnson did listen to her and gets rid of Cummings, isn't that a good idea?

growstuff Thu 12-Nov-20 18:09:13

SuRu

There is absolutely no evidence that Carrie Symonds has said anything at all. Has it occurred to some of you that she may be being briefed against by a journalist (or indeed, politician) for their own ends?

Yes, it did occur to me. That's why I asked the question @ 13.57.15.

GagaJo Thu 12-Nov-20 17:46:08

www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/carrie-symonds-announces-cabinet-reshuffle-20201112202451?fbclid=IwAR34wKpLipYcLJvajgHGkVafQI8i7RtfG2NLzu5P-f4MfJvU1676Z6bZfxQ

GoldenAge Thu 12-Nov-20 17:41:15

We need to get the facts straight before making any judgement about CS - first we hear that she 'advised' the PM but I've read that she was simply passing on the feeling of the two women in the team. As she and BJ live next door to No 10 (I think), she'll be in frequent contact with them and able to pick up their concerns, and it's a poor situation where the women themselves feel they won't be listened to by the PM because of the interference from DC and his crony. CS might just be the levelling influence BJ needs, and honestly if we don't accept that wags have always been influential in politics then we're not very politically astute. I'm not a Tory voter but I'll be happy if she can make BJ see some sense.

SuRu Thu 12-Nov-20 17:17:40

There is absolutely no evidence that Carrie Symonds has said anything at all. Has it occurred to some of you that she may be being briefed against by a journalist (or indeed, politician) for their own ends?

suziewoozie Thu 12-Nov-20 14:58:31

polnan

Interesting,.. just been skim reading (again) the Lockdown thread... most people suggesting, these unusual times have made life difficult and challenging for most if not all of us..

ah!! politicians and Government aren`t human are they?

No they are not and this present bunch have done much to make life far more challenging and difficult for us than it might have been - and it’s taken plenty of lives as well.

polnan Thu 12-Nov-20 14:55:36

Interesting,.. just been skim reading (again) the Lockdown thread... most people suggesting, these unusual times have made life difficult and challenging for most if not all of us..

ah!! politicians and Government aren`t human are they?

growstuff Thu 12-Nov-20 13:59:11

Davidhs

Whatever her problem it will be solved soon enough, because I don’t see Johnson staying PM long after Brexit day.
If the talk of infighting is true, wannabee’s will be lining up allies, so it could be sooner than my guess which is April

Rather than concentrating on the infighting in the cabinet office, I'm more interested in the back benches, where it would appear that there are three "rebel" groups, made up of some of the nastiest Tories.

growstuff Thu 12-Nov-20 13:57:15

Who exactly briefed the press that Symonds influenced Johnson?

Davidhs Thu 12-Nov-20 13:36:43

Whatever her problem it will be solved soon enough, because I don’t see Johnson staying PM long after Brexit day.
If the talk of infighting is true, wannabee’s will be lining up allies, so it could be sooner than my guess which is April

Gransooz Thu 12-Nov-20 13:30:58

I agree with so many of you here. Cummings makes my skin crawl! ?

Iam64 Thu 12-Nov-20 13:29:40

Carrie Symonds has gone up in my estimation. I
As for the sexist comments suggesting she get back in the nursery we should remember the work she did before maternity leave. No she wasn't elected, neither was Cummings. I'd rather see him leave than Carrie