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Well done The Speaker

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biba70 Wed 18-Nov-20 21:11:15

about time, thanks. Keep it up. If Johnson or colleagues just deliberately rant on to waste time- just cut them off. Bravo.

biba70 Fri 27-Nov-20 21:59:20

to start of, the refusal of the Conservative Party to do what they promised, an independent inquiry on Islamophobia, and publish it.

And the gutter Press, day in, day out.

Iam64 Fri 27-Nov-20 21:01:23

Where's the evidence for that sweeping statement biba70?

biba70 Fri 27-Nov-20 18:30:25

Will always wonder why the only form of racism that bothers some, is antisemitism

but other forms are sort of OK, and Islamphobobia totally acceptable - for some.

Ramblingrose22 Thu 26-Nov-20 23:43:42

MaizieD - to clarify.

When I suggested that Johnson is not anti-semitic that was because I'm not aware of anything he has said or done that could be regarded as anti-semitic. There may be things I do not know about which indicate otherwise. I deplored his reference to people of colour (I refuse to use the term he used) with watermelon smiles and wouldn't be surprised if he thinks other races are inferior.

A lot of other people could have done a better job than he has so far. The scientists have said that the previous tiers did nothing to reduce transmission so people complaining about the new tougher tier system haven't understood that these tougher restrictions should have been introduced before now.

They weren't introduced before now because poor Boris hates to be unpopular and dithers about making the tough decisions needed. He just isn't cut out for managing a crisis of this kind.

Even without all that, he has no regard for rules or the law when it suits him, and is everything you have said in the last part of your post.

MaizieD Thu 26-Nov-20 22:52:05

The best thing I can say about Johnson is that he's not antisemitic,

He's pretty racist towards other races and cultures, though. Are we sure that he's not anti-semitic?

As for who would have been a better PM in this crisis? The one who wouldn't have thrown £billions and £billions at friends and party donors for contracts for useless technology, a useless track & trace system and useless PPE. A man who would have been concerned about supporting all people who were financially adversely affected by closure of shops and businesses. A man who would have listened to the scientists.

Certainly not the lazy, lying, racist, immoral, incompetent, useless ditherer who got elected to utterly ruin the UK.

Ramblingrose22 Thu 26-Nov-20 20:54:03

I agree that we were given two awful alternatives as Prime Minister. And they both believe in chumocracy - i.e. the chums get the plums regardless of their competence

The best thing I can say about Johnson is that he's not antisemitic, but that doesn't excuse his tolerance of bullying by his Home Secretary or his addiction to hyperbole (eg a "world beating track and trace system") when all we needed was a track and trace system that worked!

biba70 Thu 26-Nov-20 18:54:01

I know many true lifelong Conservatives who are coming round to the idea that, no, not even Corbyn could have caused more damage. That says a lot.

lemongrove Thu 26-Nov-20 17:19:57

quizqueen

I bet there's not person here who would be willing to or want to take on Boris' job, especially with a young baby at home, being paid less than some head teachers and having been seriously ill in the not too recent past. It's so easy to always offer criticism, isn't it. Boris is not perfect by any means but he was certainly better than the alternative as shown at the last election.

I can’t argue with any of that....especially the last sentence.😁

biba70 Thu 26-Nov-20 15:04:51

exactly- as for the baby, he had a perfectly good wife and family- so no-one forced him there either.

Luckygirl Thu 26-Nov-20 15:02:05

He chose the job - he wanted the power and now he has got it he must behave like a statesman and not like a child.

He has made a total mess of protecting the country during this virus, and opposition and other MPs should be properly heard when they challenge him - well done the speaker for facilitating that as best he can in the midst of this rabble.

The fact that BJ was ill a few months ago and that he has a baby at home has no relevance to the importance or supporting democracy.

If he doesn't like the pay then he can choose to leave.

quizqueen Thu 26-Nov-20 14:50:12

I bet there's not person here who would be willing to or want to take on Boris' job, especially with a young baby at home, being paid less than some head teachers and having been seriously ill in the not too recent past. It's so easy to always offer criticism, isn't it. Boris is not perfect by any means but he was certainly better than the alternative as shown at the last election.

Dinahmo Thu 26-Nov-20 14:40:34

Lindsay Hoyle is better than I expected but I wish Bercow was still Speaker.

biba70 Thu 26-Nov-20 13:32:06

Shocking behaviour again by this Governement, leaking info on tiers to Press before the House. A mockery and total disrespect for out Parliamentary so called Democracy.

Lindsay Hoyle should have insisted for a response from Jacob Rees-Mogg.

Dinahmo Wed 25-Nov-20 21:37:51

I'd love to know if Johnson reads these comments and finds out what people really think of him.

Oldbat1 Wed 25-Nov-20 21:18:03

I was pleased the speaker intervened again today - the arrogance of Johnson to think he doesn’t have to answer questions at PMQs? I would have loved to see John Bercow handle the PM - it is a shame that didn’t happen.

Ramblingrose22 Wed 25-Nov-20 21:07:06

Agreed - if it's Prime Minister's Questions then he should have to answer the questions asked.

But as we all know, he can't do detail, he can't master a brief, he cannot give satisfactory answers where there are none, and as he's spent most of his life blustering and winging it he expects to be able to carry on despite being the PM and at PMQs. Pitiful!

biba70 Wed 25-Nov-20 20:36:09

indeed- and that is the next step for The Speaker- insist he answers the ** question!

MaizieD Wed 25-Nov-20 20:27:08

He still didn't answer the questions, though.

Iam64 Wed 25-Nov-20 19:00:44

Yes, so can Iemon, Sunak and Starmer speak clearly. I did wonder today whether Mr J has been coached by his new spad, his speech was calmer, slower and clearer (till he got p*****d off)

biba70 Wed 25-Nov-20 18:30:26

Ramblingrose- this is a very deliberate strategy, to waffle on and waste time, or go on the attack or ask questions back instead of answering. English is not my MT, and both Yorkshire and Lancashire can be hard to 'get' (and so many more, Scouse, Geordie, Glaswegian, and more) - but I for one thank the Speaker for holding the PM to account- cut him off if he deliberately waffles, or any of the above 'strategies'- questions or attacks. I hope he does it everytime now, and does request that the PM actually answers the question.

lemongrove Wed 25-Nov-20 18:27:10

No, not that either Iam he has a very strong Lancashire accent and an unclear delivery, Johnson also has an unclear delivery of voice at times, especially when he speaks rapidly.
I can hear every word uttered by Sunak and Starmer.

Iam64 Wed 25-Nov-20 18:08:20

lemongrove- maybe you're too far away from t'north to follow the speaker. I'm too far away from Eton to follow the PM grin

lemongrove Wed 25-Nov-20 17:59:10

Haha MaizieD.....nope, no aggro at all, I haven’t lived in Yorkshire for fifty years.I just have difficulty making out what he says.

Ramblingrose22 Wed 25-Nov-20 17:14:06

Yes, Nortsat, our illustrious (in his own eyes) PM has never really understood what the job is about or what the Speaker's job is either!

I can't bear to listen to Boris for too long. Must be those clipped Etonian vowels and superior attitude. His attempt at answering one question by accusing the Labour Party of being against the private sector was pathetic and no defence for all the billions of taxpayers' money wasted on useless PPE.

NotSpaghetti Wed 25-Nov-20 16:53:09

Sarnia 😂😂