New EU Treaty - a good deal or not?

Johnson isnt pro anything, as far as I can see he has no actual convictions.

Brexit: Boris Johnson 'had agonised doubts'

Brexit: Boris Johnson 'had agonised doubts'

The contents of a pro-EU article - written by Boris Johnson two days before he declared his support for the Leave campaign - have been made public.

Composed in February - but not published - it sets out the economic and political risks Brexit might pose.

The Sunday Times has published the pro-Remain column.

The newspaper's political editor, Tim Shipman, explained what it reveals.

Published 16 October 2016

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-37670906

I thought he’d always been pro-Brexit?

I think Boris spent the weekend on the family farm with his sister whilst deciding which way to campaign.

She obviously wasn't convincing enough.

Do they? Maybe blood is thicker than water, but both his brothers, and his sister are remainers too so the current family dynamics must be fascinating - given they are even stronger personalities than some of the Gransnet posters.

Bodach

"Which would still be decades less ‘harping’ than the Tory right."

I am always intrigued by the assumption that the 'Tory Right' has always been anti-EU/EEC/Common Market. In fact, for the first 15 years or so of UK membership, it was the Labour Party who opposed our membership. Their 1983 Manifesto actually contained a promise to leave the EEC if they were elected. It would seem that the more a simple free-trading arrangement gradually morphed into a political union run by bureaucrats, the better the Labour Party grew to like it.

Interesting!
Am with you on the loony who shouted ‘Stop Brexit’ all day long?but am hoping he has now slunk off somewhere.
Yes, we are all European and most of us love going to European countries and appreciate the different cultures, and anyone who thinks that those who voted for Brexit are against
Europe somehow are sadly deluded.
I think this year most of the acrimony from those who voted Remain will start to dissipate in real life, although social media will still buzz with resentment, because that’s the lifeblood of SM.

Casdon

To be fair Stanley Johnson is a remainer, he hasn’t made a secret of it. The family dynamics must be fascinating.

And they still appear to love each other!

How far back are we allowed to go for French relatives to claim EU citizenship? I'll have to dig deep.

To be fair Stanley Johnson is a remainer, he hasn’t made a secret of it. The family dynamics must be fascinating.

Dig up a French relative and go on French radio to talk about your application for French citizenship maybe David. Works for Stanley Johnson

I had thought that covid would be a common enemy against which we could unite to fight. But it isn't with so many arguments against whether to have the vaccine, to wear a mask or to isolate.

I honestly don't see how the country will unite - unless the brexit experiment goes wrong.

seamstress

All the calls for lets unite and get behind this marvellous new dawn, are doomed if the nastiness and name calling are anything to go by. Im so glad to have EU citizenship still yay! I know I'm joining an ever-growing band- welcome Stanley Johnson!

It’s hard to get enthusiastic about a new dawn when I can nothing to aim for, maybe Im missing a golden opportunity.

Maybe others could give me a few pointers, just in case I’ve missed something.

I'm in such a happy mood today shame I've got no where to go because of lockdown you can't have everything I suppose lol. I do love a lol?

You could have it tattooed on your chest ?

Tomorrow and the day after and all the days after that I will be a European

You could put that on a T Shirt, Whitewavemark2

Actually we are all European. Whether we voted Leave or Remain.

"Which would still be decades less ‘harping’ than the Tory right."

I am always intrigued by the assumption that the 'Tory Right' has always been anti-EU/EEC/Common Market. In fact, for the first 15 years or so of UK membership, it was the Labour Party who opposed our membership. Their 1983 Manifesto actually contained a promise to leave the EEC if they were elected. It would seem that the more a simple free-trading arrangement gradually morphed into a political union run by bureaucrats, the better the Labour Party grew to like it.

Tomorrow and the day after and all the days after that I will be a European. I simply live in the U.K., but I feel culturally European, my loyalty lies with this continent, with our common history and common interests.

All the calls for lets unite and get behind this marvellous new dawn, are doomed if the nastiness and name calling are anything to go by. Im so glad to have EU citizenship still yay! I know I'm joining an ever-growing band- welcome Stanley Johnson!

Still it must be a change for the loons not to have to rave against the European Commission any more.

They will instead rave against the Partnership Council, but this time Britain won’t have the strength and influence it had as a member of the EU, so there will be a lot more to rave about.

"At least with covid we won't have the embarrassing show of all the Brexiteers, led by their dear leader Farage draped in union jacks, rejoicing that they have got their country back, and baying at Big Ben. What a depressing thought to be glad of covid19."

Sadly, GillT57, I should think that that Euro-loony who has been baying "STOOOPPP BREXXXXIIIIT" at Big Ben for the last few years will still be there in 2021: foaming at the mouth and shouting something even more inane like "REEEEJOIN"...

I hope so too flump. Difficult times ahead for so many business owners x

Firecracker123

Year 2041 Rejoiners still harping on lol

Ah. LOL. That’s such a great debating tool.

Thank you to MayBee70 and Nezumi65 for at least reading my post. I certainly hope his business will survive, as he has to provide for his family. Good Luck with your son, Nezumi65, Been there done that.

I'd also like to thank brexiters who gave me answers to my question. OH, YOU DIDN'T! No surprise there then.

Firecracker123

My comments have hit the mark with some it seems with them still harping on about Nigel Farage again, ? just amusing myself after four and a half years of Remainers trying to stop Brexit.

I expect you will be amusing yourself for a very long time because many of us aren't going to stop complaining about the present situation as regards Brexit and the govt.

Aren't you all getting a little bit bored with the emoticons? I know I am. They're not very funny but perhaps rather childish.

My comments have hit the mark with some it seems with them still harping on about Nigel Farage again, ? just amusing myself after four and a half years of Remainers trying to stop Brexit.

Oh Firecracker give it a rest with your silly, nasty comments. The echo chamber of your triumphant Brexiteers club is starting to sound as if you are having to re-assure each other that you voted the right way, surely not? At least with covid we won't have the embarrassing show of all the Brexiteers, led by their dear leader Farage draped in union jacks, rejoicing that they have got their country back, and baying at Big Ben. What a depressing thought to be glad of covid19.