New EU Treaty - a good deal or not?

As nobody knows what's in it a bit difficult to comment
Cant be they only one that is so sick of this that I am passed caring
Boris hasn't held out this long for nothing so presuming it will be the best that can be done
This year has perhaps shown us that some things are more important

Thank you for starting this thread vegansrock
I'm very relieved (so far, at least)

A good deal is one that both parties are happy with, or both sides can claim as a victory. Let’s keep fingers crossed.

I can't help thinking that whatever deal is negotiated, it won't be as good as the one we already had. What madness.

The pictures from Dover have shown us what chaos looks like when trade is held up. Hopefully that has given the negotiators a kick up the backside to push this over the line.

Of course the deal will be criticised and nobody will be happy about it but at least it will be over a s we can get going working out how to love according to the new regulations.

Sorry. Typing in bed.

Yes, fingers crossed.
oldgoat I totally agree, but we can't keep going over all that.

oldgoat I totally agree also. I said the same on a FB page I am on. The first reply I had was 'rubbish' but he didn't say why"

I’m glad a deal is about to be announced. If both sides feel they’ve ‘lost’ something they wanted that’s good negotiation.

To be honest after 4+ years im sick of talking about it now. Negotiations will doubtless go on for months as and when but not big news headlines all the time.

Brexit is done next week. We are out. Finally.

U, love that illustration. With that who needs words? Thanks.

I just feel sad listening to it all tbh. It sounds a hard Brexit and not being a billionaire I find it difficult to see any gain at all. The populism that comes with it just makes my teeth grind.

Also still bemused that I can no longer just take my dog to Northern Ireland (yes I know I can still take him, but there is now a whole layer of difficulty there wasn’t before). I notice as well that Northern Ireland is now much more aligned with Eire than here (delivery charges etc) and I hope that doesn’t lead to problems there.

Am going to put my head down, carry on learning French and read French newspapers I think

This is how I feel

Urmstongran
Lovely image. Thank you ?

Clearly economically we’re going to worse off for a long time. I don’t feel emotional about that though.

I agree Jane10 at least we will have some sort of structure now. Not sure if I need to learn how to love again though

I shut my service providing business in the autumn - sounds as if that was the right thing to do.

I see it as the time to begin to rebuild our relationship.

This treaty will not be static and closer a relationship will be built.

Economically, the whole world is a disaster zone. Covid has caused and still continue to cause far more problems

I'll be glad when it's all over

Love your picture , Urmstongran !

I don't understand that picture Urmston, we have always been in the world?

The Devil is in the detail, I suppose. I hear that some MPs have groups of legal eagles ready to go through the deal with a fine toothcomb.
We'll have to see .

I still think that the reason Boris got a landslide last year was due to the slogan 'Get brexit done'. It wasn't that people really wanted to leave the EU, just that they were so sick of the endless tit for tat briefing and counterbriefing going on. Our news was dominated by it and the people in the street just wanted to move on. This came as surprise to the intelligentsia and London centric media.
We're out. We just have to know how to live with it. (Awful typo in my previous post!) we don't have to love it just get on with it.

This is how I feel....

The reason Johnson got a landslide is because of the FPTP system. If we used proportional representation we would not have seen that.

I agree that populism and sticking one to the intelligentsia is behind Brexit and we’ll all have to suffer for it. Ironically it has given power to the far right of the Tory Party who do not give a shite about the poor.