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The Good that Men do - Donald Trump?

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BigBertha1 Thu 14-Jan-21 12:40:23

I dont usually join in the politics on here but I was just wondering over breakfast with DH today did DT do any good during his term of office- anything at all??

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-Feb-21 21:16:29

If you didn’t know you would say McConnell was a democrat.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-Feb-21 21:14:01

Are you watching maybe? it has left me open mouthed

MayBee70 Sat 13-Feb-21 21:12:42

I give up. I totally despair.....

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-Feb-21 21:11:18

Mitch McConnell has stood up and said that Trump is directly responsible for January 6th, but McConnell voted to acquit!!?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-Feb-21 20:51:12

Acquittal

Well I sincerely hope that they won’t rue this day.

timetogo2016 Sat 13-Feb-21 12:02:46

He`s a bigger one CSizzle ,iv`e always thought he stinks.

Rhinestone Sat 13-Feb-21 11:54:49

VarianI agree that the outcome of a secret ballot might work . And then I ask what are they afraid of to not speak out and verbally cast their conscience. They are the party of Trump and not the conservative Republican Party. We will need a new party.

varian Thu 11-Feb-21 19:18:48

It seems a foregone conclusion that most Republican Senators will support Trump
The result might be different if they could cast a secret vote and it is theoretically possible for that to happen if the procedure could be changed as it could be by a simple majority.

Rhinestone Thu 11-Feb-21 10:43:07

During the Capitol riot, instead of calling off his followers, he was calling senators to stop the counting of the votes. He did NOTHING for hours. His Vice President and his family were hunted. He said to a crowd that he as relying on Mike Pence to change the votes. If he read the constitution he would know that Jan 6 is just ceremonial. Pence could do nothing. All the stars had ratified their votes for Biden.
And the cowards of the senate who probably won’t convict Trump should pray very hard that karma doesn’t come back to tie them. What a slap in the face that will be to the police who saved those Republican senators and those who died trying to save them. They should all be ashamed.

NotSpaghetti Thu 11-Feb-21 10:21:46

Indeed Jane.
I was just trying to drag myself back to the original post...

Jane43 Thu 11-Feb-21 04:11:05

NotSpaghetti

I take it we are struggling to find many good things in this presidency then...?

One good thing, the day it ended and he and his free loading family moved out of The White House.

Jane43 Thu 11-Feb-21 04:07:21

I only have Freeview but it is on Al Jazeera, channel 235. I watched some tonight and the Democrats have put together a wonderful case for the prosecution. Of course not enough Republican Senators have enough moral fibre to vote in accordance with the overwhelming evidence. I read that some Republican senators such as Josh Hawley aren’t even listening to the evidence, he has his feet up on the seat in front of him and is reading. I switched off when Senator Mike Lee for some reason was throwing his toys out of the pram because he was quoted as having answered his phone to Trump and handed it over to the Senator Trump wanted to speak to. He wanted it striking out despite the incident having been quoted in several newspapers and he even spoke about it on tv.

NotSpaghetti Wed 10-Feb-21 23:41:07

I take it we are struggling to find many good things in this presidency then...?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Feb-21 17:49:05

If any one is interested - anyone? - Trumps impeachment trial is on CNN..

Fascinating.

varian Fri 05-Feb-21 19:18:36

The ultimate act of cowardice by Trump

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/04/trump-senate-impeachment-trial-testify-house-democrats

varian Fri 05-Feb-21 19:01:24

Biden warns Putin that the USA will no longer "roll over "

www.rferl.org/a/biden-putin-first-call-navalny-ukraine-us-russia-warning/31070392.html

varian Fri 05-Feb-21 18:58:03

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/04/take-action-on-mps-supporting-covid-conspiracy-figures-pm-told

Jane43 Fri 05-Feb-21 10:36:00

There is ample evidence on line to show that Trump is a racist. For example he called senator Elizabeth Warren ‘Pocahontas’ - she has Cherokee heritage. Not to mention his disparaging remarks about Mexicans. Besides being a racist he mocked a disabled reporter when he tried to ask a question at one of his press conferences. Yet he will still be acquitted after his trial in the senate which starts next week. He has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

varian Thu 04-Feb-21 14:13:19

Marjorie Taylor Greene, whose past remarks endorsing violence against Democratic leaders and espousing conspiracy theories about mass shootings may cost her committee assignments, addressed the GOP conference Wednesday evening to express remorse for those comments.

She told Republican colleagues she believes school shootings are real and called them "awful," and apologized for her past support for QAnon conspiracy theories,
according to two sources familiar with the meeting.

Greene's private comments to her colleagues -- who also have the power to strip her of her committee assignments -- stand in stark contrast to her public comments, where she has refused to back away from her past statements in the face of criticism

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-apologizes-to-gop-colleagues/ar-BB1dmSSe

Jane43 Thu 04-Feb-21 12:21:52

At a recent GOP closed meeting QAnon supporter Marjorie Taylor Greene was given a standing ovation. Trump recently called her ‘a rising star’ of the GOP. There are numerous FaceBook videos in which she expresses racist views, including Islamophobia and anti-semitism. To me this indicates Trump is a racist.

nanna8 Thu 04-Feb-21 01:56:02

I wouldn’t have pegged him as a racist whatever his many faults.

varian Wed 03-Feb-21 21:11:19

Is the Republican Party on the side of the white supremacists?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/03/democracy-white-supremacist-mob-republican-party

Jane43 Wed 03-Feb-21 20:18:02

Trump took the credit for a lot of things that happened during Obama’s administration. His motto is if you say it often and loudly people will believe it.

NotSpaghetti Wed 03-Feb-21 19:52:48

codfleece

He reformed the VA, the veterans healthcare. Which is something past presidents failed to accomplish.

He also supported farmers impacted by his trade wars and historical floods.

The above actions grew his base substantially.

Mmmn. I'm not sure the Veteran health info is actually correct.

Barack Obama was responsible for the reform that created CHOICE in 2014.
Trump did expand this in 2018 (the Mission Act) but almost no more veterans have been able to use private health care. I read before Christmas that it wasn't working - they were being turned away from private doctors.
I don't think there's an obligation for them to be seen.

I don't remember reading about the other things - flooding and mitigation of trade wars...
Interesting. Do you have a link please?

varian Wed 03-Feb-21 19:32:14

Trump inspired the election of Qanon believer Marjorie Taylor Green. now described as a cancer in the Republican Party

www.nytimes.com/2021/02/01/us/politics/mitch-mcconnell-marjorie-taylor-greene.html