Is Boris's trip essential?

22Elegran

While there are drug users, they will find new suppliers as the current ones are removed. Drug problems need to be attacked at the user side as well as the suppliers. That takes a lot of medical attention. Just where do you get that when the NHS is stretched to the limit and beyond by Covid?

Ask Nicola she's in charge. ?

Firecracker123

Boris Johnson is PM of the whole of the UK seems to me he can go where he wants.

If Scotland gains independence from the UK

What currency are you going to use, you have already been told you can't use the £?

How are you going to support yourselves as an independent country, no Barnet Formula to pay for prescriptions etc.

How are you going to pay for your hospitals and health care with no handouts and top ups from Westminster? England's ambulance service had to help you out last week when your ambulance service couldn't cope.

So you support indpendence then?

Blossoming

If Johnson goes to Scotland can we stop him coming back to England?

NannyDaft

He is not breaking the rules he is working ! Sorry but Nichola Sturgeon is the non essential here !

The rule is "You can only leave home for work purposes where it is unreasonable for you to do your job from home. "

So what is necessary about his physical presence?

Some revolting posts on here.
The thread is discussing whether people in the public eye should be seen to travel unnecessarily. It’s not an excuse to make nasty, daft remarks about the elected First Minister of Scotland.

PaddyAnne Wales voted to leave the EU. Wales voted in more Conservative MPs than ever in 2019. Latest polls show only 23% in favour of independence. Continue to rant on behalf of Scotland by all means but leave Wales out of it.
Personally I am in favour of our United Kingdom and wish we could all respect each other.

Thé truth is many people are hurting through their use of drugs Firecracker. That is what hurts me along with the lack of compassion shown by you, irrespective of what Nationality one might be.

Is anyone seriously suggesting that his trip might contribute in any way to "saving the union"? - If so, how?

no he shouldn't be going. He made himself look a fool at the beginning when he was going around shaking hands and not wearing a mask and then caught covid. Seems as though he hasn't learned his lesson. It's all about being seen to be doing something. If his MP's can't go back and sit in the commons, then he has no business travelling around the country. He should stay in Whitehall and help get us out of this mess, that we're in.

12:06Lucca

Some revolting posts on here.
The thread is discussing whether people in the public eye should be seen to travel unnecessarily. It’s not an excuse to make nasty, daft remarks about the elected First Minister of Scotland.

But its OK to make nasty daft remarks about Boris Johnson. Hypocrite comes to mind.

It may help the people of Scotland to feel part of the union when the head of the government of the United Kingdom puts in an appearance and shows that we all care about being one nation.
If he didn’t turn up in Scotland he would be accused of ignoring Scotland, only caring about England.
Just a thought.

LauraNorder I too am in favour of a United Kingdom. The slogan was "better together" and it was a true one. It is better that the various parts of the kingdom are united and work together in things like import/export and social and working conditions for the prosperity of the whole.

However, each region has its own personality, needs and priorities. That was recognised when Wales and Scotland devolved to have their own Parliaments responsible for various internal matters, getting a fair proportion of what is spent on those matters over the whole country and contributing a fair share from the taxes paid in Wales or Scotland. (Those moaning about Scotland using some of that money for prescriptions should lobby Westminster to do the same in England)

Health is of those devolved issues. Decisions on combatting Covid some under the health umbrella. The four countries of the United Kingdom can discuss Covid measures, and pass on ideas and experiences, but the decisions are still up to the devolved Parliaments. Johnson has no authority to apply pressure for everything to be exactly the same - the same as Westminster!

This visit is a political one, at a time when Johnson's popularity level is sinking like a stone. He thinks he can bump up his appeal by being masterful with Nicola Sturgeon. You don't have to be an SNP voter wishing for independence to know that he is likely to come off worst in that encounter.

Is that you Carrie? ??

19Kalu

Thé truth is many people are hurting through their use of drugs Firecracker. That is what hurts me along with the lack of compassion shown by you, irrespective of what Nationality one might be.

How do you know what my feelings are towards drug use. I was just stating that Scotland is the drugs capital of the world. Perhaps the sainted Nicola should concentrate on sorting Scotlands problems first rather than trying to break up the UK.

I can predict that most Scots will rank him with the carpetbaggers. He is being counterproductive to the unity he is hoping to achieve.

Don't forget that the Union was a Union of equal sovereign kingdoms - England and Scotland, under a Scottish king, not the acquisition by a victorious England of a vanquished Scotland.

My post was to Firecracker

At this critical time for all countries, Firecracker she is concentrating on the pandemic, not on independence.

Well written, Elegran

Enjoying your posts Elegran. We disagree on independence but your balanced posts show that this is possible without throwing around insults about the different sides.

12:37Elegran

At this critical time for all countries, Firecracker she is concentrating on the pandemic, not on independence.

No she is not only 4 days ago she was talking about another Independence Referendum. She's a one trick pony.

CoVid is another trick, Firecracker That makes two at least.

She's a woman. She can do more than one thing at once

Concentrating on one thing doesn't mean she can't do other things at the same time. As for looking at drugs deaths...

www.gov.scot/news/more-than-gbp-250-million-for-drug-deaths-emergency/

Alegrias Rees Mogg sneering at Nicola Sturgeon for "moaning" in defence of her country shows how not all those at Westminster have grasped that politicians need good manners. It seems that the "upper classes" don't always live up to their claims to be "gentlemen".

Manners makyth man. The rank is but the guinea's stamp, the man's the gowd for a' that.

Well said Elegran. Can I add:

Ye see yon birkie, ca'd a lord,
Wha struts, an' stares, an' a' that;
Tho' hundreds worship at his word,
He's but a coof for a' that:
For a' that, an' a' that,
His ribband, star, an' a' that:
The man o' independent mind
He looks an' laughs at a' that.

Your have a very narrow view of what is going on in Scotland Firecracker.
As for the PM’s visit, he is a glutton for punishment.