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Is Boris's trip essential?

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Sarnia Thu 28-Jan-21 10:01:00

Boris is planning to go to Scotland to meet Nicola Sturgeon to discuss how coronavirus is being handled and I expect he will slip in the little matter of Scottish independence while he is there. Nicola Sturgeon has asked him not to go as it is not essential travel. It seems ironic that he is travelling all that way to talk about the virus, breaking his own rules on travel in the process.

Blossoming Thu 28-Jan-21 11:18:55

If Johnson goes to Scotland can we stop him coming back to England?

trisher Thu 28-Jan-21 11:19:32

It's just another opportunity for a photo shoot. Boris isn't a PM he's a media hungry celebrity

Alegrias1 Thu 28-Jan-21 11:21:42

Fabulous quote from Mr Gove this morning:

Cabinet Office Minister Michael Gove said it was "only right" the prime minister visited people on the front line of the vaccine roll-out to make sure it is operating effectively.

Will he bring a clipboard and do some quality assurance while he's here?

Elegran Thu 28-Jan-21 11:22:02

While there are drug users, they will find new suppliers as the current ones are removed. Drug problems need to be attacked at the user side as well as the suppliers. That takes a lot of medical attention. Just where do you get that when the NHS is stretched to the limit and beyond by Covid?

Jane10 Thu 28-Jan-21 11:23:07

He's the PM of the whole UK of which Scotland is only a part. If he wants to underline the clear benefits of the union that's fine by me.
Nicola needs to be busy watching her back right now.

Elegran Thu 28-Jan-21 11:23:11

Maybe he will take a tea trolley to the vaccinators. Then he'd be welcomed.

Elegran Thu 28-Jan-21 11:24:03

I imagine Nicola has eyes in the back of her head where Johnson is concerned.

Alegrias1 Thu 28-Jan-21 11:26:37

He's welcome to have a go Jane10. Let's see how effective the visit is. I think it will just entrench views we all already have.

Kalu Thu 28-Jan-21 11:28:31

What a heartless post firecracker.

Elegran Thu 28-Jan-21 11:42:39

I think it'll be counterproductive. .
He speaks of "trying to make a united Covid response" but that translates as "trying to impose his (not exactly successful) policies to all" including where health policies are the concern of the devolved authority, not Westminster.

Doing so by going against the more stringent policy of minimising inward travel that is imposed in Scotland is waving a red flag and saying "You will do it my way even if that is not a good way"

Or that all elected governments in the UK are equal, but some are more equal than others. That won't go down well.

Boz Thu 28-Jan-21 11:42:47

Gave me the laugh of the day, Firecracker, but wait for return fire! The truth always hurts.

Alegrias1 Thu 28-Jan-21 11:43:04

It just gets better. From the BBC website:

The prime minister’s visit to Scotland today has been criticised in the Commons for “undermining the public health message” of Covid-19.

The SNP’s House of Commons spokesman Tommy Sheppard said that in normal times he would be delighted for Boris Johnson to visit Scotland because it resulted in a boost in support for his party.

But, he said, now was not the time for such visit and people should be maintaining social distancing protocols.

In reply, the leader of the Commons, Conservative MP Jacob Rees Mogg, dismissed the criticism.

He described Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon as “Miss Moan A Lot”.

Way to go in endearing yourself to the peasants, Jacob.

Kalu Thu 28-Jan-21 11:45:20

Boris really doesn’t want to go down in history as the Prime Minister unable to stop the break up of the union. Time will tell what his actions towards Scotland reveal.

Alegrias1 Thu 28-Jan-21 11:46:34

Laugh Boz? At high numbers of drug deaths? That's nice.

Grandmabatty Thu 28-Jan-21 11:47:35

Firecracker what nasty comments! Is it any wonder that many in Scotland want independence with sneering, unpleasant remarks like that? No need for bile, unless you can't help it?

Elegran Thu 28-Jan-21 11:49:46

Ms Sturgeon is the First Minister of an elected Parliament. Mr Mogg is a rusty cog in the wheel of the bicycle pedalled by his tired fellow Etonian Johnson. His squeaks grate on the ear.

BlueBelle Thu 28-Jan-21 11:51:35

Sturgeon is a good, clear, no nonsense politician who makes Johnson look like the twit he is Of course it’s not essential travel he’s a total nincampoop
Nasty post firecracker

paddyanne Thu 28-Jan-21 11:51:50

Firecracker you do understand that Drugs issues are NOT devolved and every solution the Scot Gov brings to the table is rejected by BOjo and CO.? Could that be because he has his own agenda in making the rUK view Scots as drunk.junkies and generally a waste of space.
Maybe he should had told George Osborne to keep his mouth shut last week when he pointed out what a LOSS Scotland would be to the union.That all the inventions ,discoveries,art, Literature (and money) that we have supplied TO teh Union over 300 years is THEIRS until we go and they are left poorer and without credence in the rest of the world.He even apologised to Wales for not having the same issues with them leaving the EU? How DID the welsh feel about that ?

Luckygirl Thu 28-Jan-21 11:52:41

NannyDaft - he is working!!!? Are you serious? There is no need whatsoever for him to make this journey and break the lockdown rules. It is just a bit of window dressing. Silly man.

Hopefully it will backfire on him and make people realise what a plonker he truly is.

Firecracker123 Thu 28-Jan-21 11:55:18

11:47Grandmabatty

Firecracker what nasty comments! Is it any wonder that many in Scotland want independence with sneering, unpleasant remarks like that? No need for bile, unless you can't help it?

It OK to want independence but how are you going to support yourselves?

paddyanne Thu 28-Jan-21 11:57:52

Wales leaving the UK

LauraNorder Thu 28-Jan-21 11:58:45

As always he’s damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.
I applaud any effort to save the union.

Firecracker123 Thu 28-Jan-21 11:59:11

11:51BlueBelle

Sturgeon is a good, clear, no nonsense politician who makes Johnson look like the twit he is Of course it’s not essential travel he’s a total nincampoop
Nasty post firecracker

Sturgeon is a one trip pony.

Why don't you answer the questions how are you going to support yourselves without Westminster handouts. Believe me I'd be happy if the Barnet Formula was stopped.

Firecracker123 Thu 28-Jan-21 12:00:15

11:28Kalu

What a heartless post firecracker.

Perhaps the truth hurts.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 28-Jan-21 12:01:12

Rules don’t apply to Johnson or his acolytes - I’m surprised people don’t understand that!