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Labour and Liverpool -Democracy is dead?

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trisher Thu 25-Feb-21 21:18:46

While the country is focussed on Covid there are strange goings on in Liverpool. The Labour mayor has had to resign for wrongdoing (but that's not the focus here). There were three women standing as Labour candidates. One Wendy Simon is acting Mayor, another Ann O'Byrne has been the deputy, and the third Anna Rothery is the city's first black woman Lord Mayor. However LP HQ sent an e-mail to members announcing the process was to be changed and a new short list created. The three women were not informed about it and it seems they may not be permitted to stand.
The e-mail said
After careful consideration, the Labour Party has determined that applications for the position should be re-opened in order to allow the Liverpool Labour membership to choose from an alternative shortlist of candidates.

Ilovecheese Thu 25-Feb-21 21:28:57

One view is that they were too left wing for Keir Starmer. Another view is that they are too close to the previous mayor.
Isn't Keir Starmer doing a wonderful job of bringing the party together.

Aveline Thu 25-Feb-21 21:33:17

Sounds rather odd. Hard luck for those three women.

Casdon Thu 25-Feb-21 21:36:14

Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t trisher, let’s wait for the full story to come out, which it inevitably will.

trisher Thu 25-Feb-21 21:48:17

Maybe it will Casdon but possibly too late for Labour. There are indications that Anna Rothery will stand as an independent and could be elected or split the Labour vote.

JaneJudge Thu 25-Feb-21 21:52:19

if they are going back to the old days when Labour was for working males then I am out

Grany Thu 25-Feb-21 21:55:45

There are a lot of critics of Starmer from many quarters

Liverpool won't be told what to do.

dorseteye.com/keir-starmer-has-broken-the-labour-party-in-under-a-year/?fbclid=IwAR3iX1SAds0FqWLxgCVKBPkNUfKPN0IFo--GI8jxugMnroIYucvZYewVGug

And here's Labour polling under Starmer not so good as Tories

spotlight-newspaper.co.uk/politics/02/16/labour-centrists-lose-narrative-control/?fbclid=IwAR17jkn7kYqJ5Hu1-2VJfDq77WW4U32tbxsvBf00dYugHtpU5NZSdID2HFQ

How much longer will Starmer be leader?

rachaelswindon.blogspot.com

Casdon Thu 25-Feb-21 21:55:48

Possibly, I don’t know enough about what’s happening on the ground to know if she will succeed or not - my instinct is that there’s something behind the decision other than internal politics in the party. Hopefully there will be more facts emerging shortly.

trisher Thu 25-Feb-21 21:59:50

Whatever the reasons it's a shitty way to treat women working in politics.

Casdon Thu 25-Feb-21 22:02:26

Unless they are also involved in the shenanigans in some way, in which case they are equally culpable - that’s why I’d prefer to wait for more detail on what’s been going on.

Grany Thu 25-Feb-21 22:59:10

@CllrAnnaRothery

My statement following today's announcement.

twitter.com/CllrAnnaRothery/status/1364251466031108097?s=20

She should stand as an independent, people say.

growstuff Thu 25-Feb-21 23:44:46

Casdon

Unless they are also involved in the shenanigans in some way, in which case they are equally culpable - that’s why I’d prefer to wait for more detail on what’s been going on.

I agree. I've been following this story and there's too much speculation to come to any conclusion.

trisher Fri 26-Feb-21 09:51:59

It's difficult to see though who the LP would appeal to now. Who will be upset by this? Left wingers, women, black people, who will that leave? Right wing men! Not a party for many.

Iam64 Sun 28-Feb-21 17:53:14

growstuff

Casdon

Unless they are also involved in the shenanigans in some way, in which case they are equally culpable - that’s why I’d prefer to wait for more detail on what’s been going on.

I agree. I've been following this story and there's too much speculation to come to any conclusion.

I’m with Casdon and growstuff, which won’t surprise anyone

Grany Sun 28-Feb-21 18:16:58

I think that Starmer and Evens et al don't like that Anna Rothery is black a socialist and a woman Yes Democracy is Dead.

Good artical in Guardian by Owen Jones.

On tax as on so much else, Keir Starmer's team is fighting yesterday's battles.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/26/keir-starmer-tax-pandemic

trisher Sun 28-Feb-21 18:20:44

It would have been such a great first-first black women mayor. As it is it is most likely that Labour will lose the mayoral election.

Casdon Sun 28-Feb-21 18:32:03

No surprise then.
www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/former-labour-leader-jeremy-corbyn-19805045

trisher Sun 28-Feb-21 22:03:03

That's old news everyone knew she was left wing and a Corbyn supporter. It shows how inclusive Starmer's LP is though.

Grany Tue 02-Mar-21 06:34:14

What is the point of Labour?

Just Owen Jones on YouTube

Speaking his mind

m.youtube.com/watch?v=YvXJ3PL9Vgo

trisher Tue 02-Mar-21 11:27:12

Thanks Grany Love Owen Jones-policy driven by focus groups-it explains much. The poster of Kier Hardie and all the issues listed was so applicable still. It seems we have moved such a short distance towards a decent life for all.

trisher Tue 02-Mar-21 11:31:01

Couldn't help posting it. These are still issues today!

EllanVannin Tue 02-Mar-21 11:42:55

Liverpool is a law unto itself, always has been and will remain to be so.