Monday - will you watch....and why?

tbf I am not much older than William (just a few years) and two of my children are in their 20s. As I said I think I am just intolerant atm (maybe perimenopausal )

during lockdown they (the Cambridges) did this whole bleating performance about how difficult it was for them to home school and we all must battle on - or some other rubbish.
Maybe Jane all this is because the younger generation as a whole are far more vocal about their struggles, their mental health etc. The Sussex and Cambridges are just product of their times.

trisher yes, you have caused offence. I thought you had more about you than to take so much pleasure in it.

I have never found trisher to make personal offensive remarks, just give a different viewpoint.

I feel the same as Luckygirl when she says "I am unable to get my head round the sheer venom that these two fellow human beings induce. They are not Hitler, or Stalin."

Luckygirl, you’re right they’re not Hitler or Stalin but they have dropped a hell of a bomb on the palace.

The same goes for every Royal, Luckygirl
As I pointed out previously, there have been dreadful stories printed in the media over the years about all of them.

Luckygirl, SO well said.

I am unable to get my head round the sheer venom that these two fellow human beings induce. They are not Hitler, or Stalin.

It is as if there is a collective indignation that these people are simply human and have failed to fulfil the fantasy.

They were entitled to have their say, after all the dreadful things that the media have said about them.

NellG

trisher

I think it's interesting that the people who condemn M&H draw parrallels between their own family life and this couple's actions. I think they should examine carefully how much of their criticism of these people they don't really know, is actually things they are unable to say to their own family for one reason or another.
I think they were possibly seen as an unacceptable threat to the popularity of Will & Kate, so they had to become the "bad Royals". I hope they are both happier now and I do hope they have had some help to enable them to move on and build a happy family life.

I think you could examine carefully your assumptions about other posters, and perhaps while you're at it you could consider carefully whether the offence you cause is deliberate, or an artefact of your own subconscious motivations.

I haven't actually"assumed" anything, there are people condemning M&H, there are people drawing parallels with their own family life. I simply asked them to examine their motives
If it causes offence so be it. The appropriate response is I think "If the cap fits"
As for my subconcious, leave it out of this, it's much too complicated and dark for GN!

I hope they are both happier now and I do hope they have had some help to enable them to move on and build a happy family life.

I agree, trisher but without the need to whinge about how hard done by they are and the slagging off of the rest of the family.
People condemned Samantha Markle for being unkind about her sister - but it's beginning to look as if she, who knows her well, may have been giving us a glimpse of the true version of Meghan after all.

All I'm trying to say is don't take it too seriously, and let it get you down, whichever side of the fence you're on.
It's nor getting me down, Fanny

But I do think people tend to forget this is about real people, it's not Corrie or Eastenders. They may live what appear to be gilded lives but everyone is staring into their gilded cage with an opinion, some of it just vile and nasty.

Being Head of State is not romantic either, as people living overseas may think. It's a job that has to be undertaken with support. Even if we didn't have a Monarchy willing to undertake the burden, someone who is apolitical would have to do it and you can bet they wouldn't want to be doing the job from leaky old offices, entertaining in draughty old state rooms - we'd be forking out far more money for a Head of State.

Any suggestions?

Yes trisher knows all about the lives of all who post here.

Actually although I disagree fundamentally on a number of issues with trisher, she very rarely offends me. Quite bizarre advice there.

I don't really have high regard for any of them (though I have met Sophie and Charles and both of them were perfectly nice) and after watching the interview (in parts) I can see why Harry and Meghan get on people's nerves but the other pair get on my nerves as well, they seem to be on my local news a lot as I am near Cambridge, though I am not aware they live there - during lockdown they did this whole bleating performance about how difficult it was for them to home school and we all must battle on - or some other rubbish. I don't think I have a very high tolerance threshold at the moment though. They have such privilege, it is better served when used in a positive manner.

maddyone

I agree, great post NellG and Smileless.

The mud slinging and name calling towards ‘the haters’ is extremely sad in my opinion. NellG says she has been called disgusting, evil, racist, thick, and easily led by some posters. I think those posters need to examine their consciences. It is offensive to insult those of a different opinion.

In fairness those insults weren't directed specifically at me, but everyone who doesn't see M&H in a favourable light.

trisher

I think it's interesting that the people who condemn M&H draw parrallels between their own family life and this couple's actions. I think they should examine carefully how much of their criticism of these people they don't really know, is actually things they are unable to say to their own family for one reason or another.
I think they were possibly seen as an unacceptable threat to the popularity of Will & Kate, so they had to become the "bad Royals". I hope they are both happier now and I do hope they have had some help to enable them to move on and build a happy family life.

I think you could examine carefully your assumptions about other posters, and perhaps while you're at it you could consider carefully whether the offence you cause is deliberate, or an artefact of your own subconscious motivations.

But it is a soap opera. What else can it be. We know nothing of what really happened. We dont know these people so I am afraid I understand exactly what Fanny is saying. People use the rf as some sort of drama or some sort of reflection of their own life. People say they like the stability but none of it has ever seemed very stable to me, just endless drama.

You may be right Alegrias
I've not seen the interview and I have not RTFT or indeed read in full any of the H&M threads.
I'm dipping in and out as I'm making phone calls and trying to organise stuff.
I'm not as invested as most on the whole H&M thing, and I'm certainly not choosing every word as carefully as I would if I were, if that makes sense.
I'm going to hide all of the H&M threads now and make no more comments on the whole sorry affair.
Apologies if I've upset anyone.
I leave in peace ☮️

I've seen things that you have posted before Fanny which is why I was surprised.

But you said that this whole event was just "a bit of a laugh". Well clearly M&H don't think so, neither do any of the extended family as far as we know. So somebody on an internet discussion site thinking its all just a bit of a laugh and we see their troubles as entertainment, shows a level of tone-deafness, IMHO.

Alegrias1

^Its all a bit of a laugh^

The pathetic excuse of bullies since time immemorial.

I'm surprised at you Fanny.

Oh Alegrias that really isn't what I meant at all.

Please don't associate me with bullies.
If you knew me only a teeny bit you'd know that I'm further from that as you can get.
I've spent much of my life standing up against bullying.

I’m away to make an apple crumble now, as we’ve got to pick up the children from school and feed them. So duty calls, but I’ll be back later, if the thread hadn’t been pulled by then.

Do not criticise Meg and Harry says the few who criticise posters and compare them to the Salem trials , !

Like trisher I hope that Meghan and Harry feel better now and can move on towards a happier life, without any further need for revenge.
Having said that, I think the devastation that they’ve left behind for the RF to deal with will be enormous and although I think they’ll weather it, I’m not sure that Harry or Meghan will ever be welcomed back into the family. This in itself, should it be the case, will be very difficult for Harry, if not Meghan to deal with I think.

Well said NellG.

I agree, great post NellG and Smileless.

The mud slinging and name calling towards ‘the haters’ is extremely sad in my opinion. NellG says she has been called disgusting, evil, racist, thick, and easily led by some posters. I think those posters need to examine their consciences. It is offensive to insult those of a different opinion.