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Is the Government threatening our democracy - Part 2

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varian Tue 23-Mar-21 11:48:40

On Wednesday Unlock Democracy is to take part in a consultation on the prorposed 'Electoral Integrity' Bill

As a reminder, the six proposals we're expecting to see in the bill are:

The end of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act

Boundary changes that will equalise the number of voters per constituency

First Past the Post system of voting to be used for all elections in England and for UK General Elections

Mandatory photo ID to be presented at polling stations in order to vote

British expats to retain voting rights past the current 15-year limit

Voting age to remain at 18 years old

If you want to express your own views please follow this link-

secure.unlockdemocracy.org.uk/page/78792/survey/1?ea.tracking.id=email&ea.url.id=5219438&forwarded=true

MaizieD Fri 19-Mar-21 18:38:58

Also, the report of the review of Judicial Review hasn't come up with what the government wanted to hear.

davidallengreen.com/2021/03/whoopsie-the-government-did-not-get-the-commission-report-on-judicial-review-that-it-was-hoping-for/

Ilovecheese Fri 19-Mar-21 16:13:05

That is good news Whitewavemark2. I also hope they drop it.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 19-Mar-21 15:38:31

Oh! I’ve just had an email to say that the government is putting Patel’s Police Bill on hold.

I do so hope that they quietly drop it after a suitable time.

Well done everyone who gave good persuasive argument.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 19-Mar-21 15:16:39

It will just be imprisonment in the U.K. .

I always thought that we were proud of never having political prisoners, and very critical of countries who do.

It’s all changing.

Devorgilla Fri 19-Mar-21 15:13:41

MayBee 70, they can try to take away our right to protest or try to make it a silent one but my voice will be heard loud and clear in the Ballot Box.
I look at people abroad in much stricter regimes coming out to protest and I cheer them on. I just wish they didn't have to risk death to achieve the right to be heard.

MaizieD Fri 19-Mar-21 13:46:00

Teething troubles, varian. Just teething troubles...

If we ignore them they will go away...

varian Fri 19-Mar-21 13:40:55

Despite the unfolding disaster that is Brexit, Rees-Mogg continues to ignore calls to allow Parliament to do its job and scrutinise the deal and its impacts – impacts like:
•A 41 per cent drop in UK exports to the EU;
•The 56% drop in exports to Germany alone;
•An 83% drop in fish and shellfish exports; and
•£1.3 trillion of financial services assets that have relocated from the UK to the EU.

From farmers to fishers; manufacturers to hauliers; supermarkets to restaurants; businesses, workers and consumers are being hit hard by the extra red tape, costs and delays imposed on them by Brexit.

The reality of Brexit in 2021 is very far from the promises of the 2016 referendum and 2019 election, and the rhetoric around the December 2020 deal. How many more businesses will go bust, jobs will be lost, and livelihoods will be destroyed before this disastrous deal is fully scrutinised and those responsible for it are held to account?

www.europeanmovement.co.uk/

Whitewavemark2 Fri 19-Mar-21 02:44:47

If it does stop us protesting we are doomed as a democracy.

MayBee70 Thu 18-Mar-21 23:08:56

Have you seen the list of the only other countries to do this eg N Korea, Egypt and Russia? Someone really has taken back control here and it isn’t the electorate.

MaizieD Thu 18-Mar-21 07:51:01

Me neither, MayBee.

MayBee70 Thu 18-Mar-21 03:43:39

No!

MaizieD Wed 17-Mar-21 21:19:27

MayBee70

Yes. I find the things this government is doing terrifying. And now they’re taking away my right to protest against it.

Would that stop you protesting, MayBee?

MaizieD Wed 17-Mar-21 21:18:13

EllanVannin

I wish there was proof that those who died actually died from Covid as it seems that whatever a person has died of it's been recorded as Covid.

It's quite possible that Covid could have been secondary to an existing illness with so many having missed or foregone appointments out of fear of catching the virus. The backlog of cancer-related illnesses is horrendous, 2.5million waiting.

Care to share your information source with us, EV?

MayBee70 Wed 17-Mar-21 19:46:34

Yes. I find the things this government is doing terrifying. And now they’re taking away my right to protest against it.

MerylStreep Wed 17-Mar-21 19:07:26

EllanVannin
There have been cases where people have fought to have the cause of death ( COVID) on the death certificate overturned.

EllanVannin Wed 17-Mar-21 18:58:07

I wish there was proof that those who died actually died from Covid as it seems that whatever a person has died of it's been recorded as Covid.

It's quite possible that Covid could have been secondary to an existing illness with so many having missed or foregone appointments out of fear of catching the virus. The backlog of cancer-related illnesses is horrendous, 2.5million waiting.

Grany Wed 17-Mar-21 18:45:11

www.crowdjustice.com/case/fight-for-transparency/?utm_source=CrowdJustice&utm_campaign=5441c6986d-PPECONMAR2021&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_7304756a43-5441c6986d-168190849

Grany Wed 17-Mar-21 18:44:37

“Despite the High Court ruling in our favour last month that Matt Hancock had broken the law in failing to publish pandemic contracts, the failures continue,” say Good Law Project.

They’re talking about further details of unpublished PPE contracts that came to light in a BBC report this week.

The report focused on the owner of a dog food firm who brokered PPE deals worth £258m between the Government and a Hong Kong firm, earning herself at least £1m.

Good Law Project launched new legal action yesterday to challenge the Government’s continued failure to publish contracts.

They are also challenging the Government’s decision "to obscure the key provisions in contracts", with many of those being published in heavily redacted form. They say that some contracts do not even show what was purchased or at what price.

The Director of Good Law Project, Jolyon Maugham asks: “If they have nothing to hide, why won’t they publish?” Read more here worth a read

Huge money, weird counterparties, duff product - and no transparency

Dinahmo Wed 17-Mar-21 17:04:51

I was planning to list the warheads but ILoveCheese started that yesterday.

My next is the inquiry into the pandemic and the handling of contracts. Grany mentioned this in Part 1 but it deserves a different thread I think. Last year Johnson promised an independent inquiry but no sign of that yet, despite the increasing demand for one. He has said that it's too early but I think that's just a ploy in the hope that people will forget.

Too many people have lost loved ones through cv-19 but also because the NHS was too busy, overwhelmed even, to treat patients with other illnesses.

I think it's important that pressure for an inquiry is kept up so that next time there's a pandemic the same thing doesn't happen again.

My final one is the cut in overseas aid. I'm sure that many GNers would agree with this - I don't. But the point is that MPs are not getting a vote - the cuts will take place which is why I consider this to be a threat to our democracy.