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Well done Gibraltar.

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tanith Fri 19-Mar-21 16:56:33

Just watched Matt Hancock tell the house that Gibraltar is the First Nation in the World to complete its adult vaccination programme, the U.K. government have supplied Gibraltar as it has all its overseas territories with PPE, tests and vaccine.
What a super effort all round, the RAF have been delivering supplies direct to the airport.

I have a slight vested interest as my son and his family live there. I live in hopes of visiting them as soon as it’s allowed.

varian Sat 20-Mar-21 10:33:23


outaouais Sat 20-Mar-21 08:28:48

To throw a bone to Varian (as I type that, I can sense hackles rising across Gransnet!), I wonder just how different vaccine rollout would have been had we continued a "one foot in, one foot out" policy with the EU? It's not an unusual state-of-affairs, practiced by principally by three countries (Denmark, the Netherlands, France... &, formerly, the UK), but to small degrees by others. If you grew up in Greenland or Tahiti, you'll probably have an EU country's passport; but, because your territory is semi-autonomous (picking & choosing which EU rules to follow), you'll have a hard time exercising your EU rights there. However, if you move to your "home nation", or visit any EU country, your rights are the same as anyone else's from the EU. France has 12 overseas territories (one uninhabited). Six lie OUTSIDE the EU (including French Polynesia & a Caribbean island), and six lie INSIDE the EU (including a few more Caribbean islands & a sizeable chunk of jungle, 4 times the size of Wales, bordering Brazil (yes, full EU laws in South America)). Had the referenda of the Home Nations and overseas territories been counted separately, England and Wales would've left the EU, while Scotland, Northern Ireland & GIBRALTAR (plus, however UK overseas territories voted, since France shows us you don't have to be "all-in" or "all-out") would have remained. That means English people wouldn't have been subject to EU rules at home, but could've take full benefit to get a job and health coverage in Spain. Under such a scenario, does anyone honestly think the UK's - & especially wee Gibraltar's - vaccine rollout would've been notably handicapped? I think it's probably now time for me to duck and cover, where've Varian flees to, from the fray. smile

Maggiemaybe Sat 20-Mar-21 08:17:35

Good news, and it must be a relief for you and yours, tanith. smile

NanKate Sat 20-Mar-21 07:58:23

Lemongrove and Opal I’m with you 👍👍

outaouais Sat 20-Mar-21 07:20:26

First off, kudos to Gibraltar for managing a full & successful vaccine rollout! People on here have said it's not fair to compare here (the UK) and Gibraltar, given that it's essentially a city-state/micro-nation without the same numbers or logistics to contend with (true), but I say take a win where you can get it. Now, their only concern will be their international arrivals: air, land & sea. I'm prepared to take Tanith's word for it that the UK took responsibility as sole supplier of PPE, tests & vaccines for Gibraltar, but I wonder about the dizzying array of semi-/quasi-autonomous UK overseas territories and Crown dependencies. You can be sure with the Crown dependencies (Guernsey, Jersey, Isle of Man). I think that's pretty likely for the UK's super-isolated Atlantic properties (St Helena, Ascension, Tristan da Cunha, the Falkland Islands... even not so isolated Bermuda). However, I'm less sure about the Caribbean properties (five territories), as most of them are connected, daily to Miami, as opposed to lengthier logistics from London. And then there's wee, forlorn Pitcairn Island, with its ~50 people, plunked in the vast Pacific, without room for an airport. Out of curiosity, does anyone know whether or not they just got forgotten amidst all this virus anxiety?

vegansrock Sat 20-Mar-21 05:23:32

Didn’t Pritti Patel suggest we send asylum seekers to Gibraltar. ? I bet the locals aren’t enthusiastic about that. One of my sons works for a large multinational leisure company that has an office in Gibraltar. They use it for their operations which involve online gambling. It’s to save paying U.K. tax apparently .

Sparkling Fri 19-Mar-21 21:48:44

Well done Gibraltar, but I can’t see why anyone would want to stay there more than a few days at most. At the moment with no travel available, I would just love to see the sea.

lemongrove Fri 19-Mar-21 21:48:43

Opal 👍🏻

I have always wanted to visit Gib, it’s on my to do list.

EllanVannin Fri 19-Mar-21 21:27:04

Love Gibraltar.

Opal Fri 19-Mar-21 21:18:22

There was no reason that EU membership could have made any difference to our vaccine rollout

Oh pull the other one - if we had stayed in the EU, we'd also be lagging behind with the vaccine rollout, same as they are. We've left the EU, thank goodness, time to move on.

LauraNorder Fri 19-Mar-21 21:10:01

Nice positive thread to say yey for Gibraltar. I’m sure it means a lot to those with family and friends there.

EMMF1948 Fri 19-Mar-21 21:09:02


They have done very well but come on they only have 33,000 people living there that’s half a small town

That was my thought too, Gib's about the size of a very small town in the UK, used to drive all round it in about half an hour if the tunnels were open, probably different now.

varian Fri 19-Mar-21 21:04:18

We all know very well that we have left the EU and most of us can see just how much damage that has done to our country..

LauraNorder Fri 19-Mar-21 20:43:38

I’ll rephrase then, please do desist Varian, we have left the EU..

Rosie51 Fri 19-Mar-21 20:13:58

Just googled (which I should have done before I posted!) and yes it's a new record, more than 51,000 over the previous high smile

Rosie51 Fri 19-Mar-21 20:11:25

Great news, well done Gibraltar!

Gannygangan that must be our record or very close to it. I do hope that's an indication people have stopped cancelling appointments for the AZ vaccine.

Gannygangan Fri 19-Mar-21 19:33:06

We left the EU.

Anyone who is still in denial about the fact that being out of the EU procurement system has helped us be where we are now is just obtuse.

The French were manufacturing a vaccine which they hoped the EU would be able to use and it failed.

Good work Gibraltar. Fabulous place. I look forward to returning soon.

But as has been mentioned there are only 33 thousand citizens

Today we have managed to vaccinate 660 thousand people. Which is pretty amazing.

varian Fri 19-Mar-21 19:26:11

We should be proud of the success of covid vaccine resear h in the UK but we should not forget that the biggest funder of the Jenner Institute was, until recently, the European Commission.

LauraNorder Fri 19-Mar-21 19:18:42

Good news though, regardless of size hey BlueBelle.

BlueBelle Fri 19-Mar-21 19:14:31

They have done very well but come on they only have 33,000 people living there that’s half a small town

LauraNorder Fri 19-Mar-21 19:12:10

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varian Fri 19-Mar-21 19:01:36

As they could have done had we all had the sense to vote Remain.*lemon*. There was no reason that EU membership could have made any difference to our vaccine rollout.

lemongrove Fri 19-Mar-21 18:15:43

😁 you managed to get a Brexit reference on a thread that has nothing to do with it varian ( why am I not surprised.)
The sensible folk in Gib have good reason to be thankful now that we did leave the EU...otherwise they would still be waiting for vaccines.

varian Fri 19-Mar-21 18:07:11

The sensible folk in Gibraltar voted overwhelming to Remain in the EU.

96% voted Remain.

tanith Fri 19-Mar-21 17:34:22

Hopefully I’ll be on my way too Buffybee can’t wait I love the place.