Flying the flag

Greta

No, Lucca, I'm not kidding:

Marmadoit : ^The Welsh flag is the best flag by far. The Union flag is probably in second place. Blue and yellow is fine for IKEA but not really suitable for a flag.^

I live in hope that this will be explained !!

winterwhite since when have footballers been far right ?

13:40winterwhite * I always look for St George's flag on church towers on St George's day - an old tradition I think - and a pity if it's taken over by far right footballers.*

Of course if England are playing the fans will be flying the St George's Flag. Its the English national flag. The same as Scotland fans and Welsh fans flying their flags in support of their countries teams. Are you automatically far right if you fly your countries flag.

I personally think you are being racist towards English people.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 22-Mar-21 09:22:33
^... What heals division, and creates pride in ones country is fairness in the economic system and a strong democracy.
Rallying behind the Union flag seems a tad sad and desperate.^

It seems to me that when people have been told to 'gather round the flag', either those at the top of the tree have been shot or had their heads cut off or those at the bottom have ended up under even greater suppression.

I think the reason 1945 onwards is often quoted is that change did happen and without lives being lost. We had learnt the cost of that during the war.

Well it did coincide with Brexit, and I thought intended to taunt and triumph (which it probably was) though pretty harmless and is now perhaps a bit OTT for every day.

I always look for St George's flag on church towers on St George's day - an old tradition I think - and a pity if it's taken over by far right footballers.

Whitewavemark2

You must admit that GN causes a lot of merriment at times.

I can certainly agree with you on that one, but suspect we may be laughing at different things.?

I can also certainly agree that the Welsh flag is the coolest ( who wouldn’t want a dragon on their flag?) It’s a bit Game Of Thrones-ish.?

Whitewavemark2

You must admit that GN causes a lot of merriment at times.

Well I've certainly had a chuckle over some of the posts, especially NS in her Christmas jumper. Hilarious! Just off to order a flag pole!

I expect it's because of the EU flag...

Though, looking at flags of the world, there seems to be a fair few places who don't understand that blue and yellow aren't suitable colours for a flag

www.newfroggy.com/images/detailed/2/1014_flags_of_the_world.jpg

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Whitewavemark2

You must admit that GN causes a lot of merriment at times.

Indeed, Whitewavemark2 but I hope the posts that my MiL’s flag is best won’t dragon and dragon!?????????????????????

You must admit that GN causes a lot of merriment at times.

Greta

No, Lucca, I'm not kidding:

Marmadoit : ^The Welsh flag is the best flag by far. The Union flag is probably in second place. Blue and yellow is fine for IKEA but not really suitable for a flag.^

Unbelievable....in what way “not suitable ??” Can’t wait to hear the rationale for that one !

The Welsh flag is the best flag by far.

Nothing wrong with that statement

Greta

No, Lucca, I'm not kidding:

Marmadoit : ^The Welsh flag is the best flag by far. The Union flag is probably in second place. Blue and yellow is fine for IKEA but not really suitable for a flag.^

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No, Lucca, I'm not kidding:

Marmadoit : The Welsh flag is the best flag by far. The Union flag is probably in second place. Blue and yellow is fine for IKEA but not really suitable for a flag.

nanna8

Most councils here fly the Aboriginal flag and the Australian flag side by side all the time. They lower them on certain days of mourning.

The Aboriginal flag is rather an oddity as it has a copyright which belongs to one man, I believe. Do Councils have to ask permission from him to fly it?

“ One GN poster thought the colours were not suitable;”
You are kidding ??!

Most councils here fly the Aboriginal flag and the Australian flag side by side all the time. They lower them on certain days of mourning.

I never really had strong feelings about flags. I grew up in Sweden and we got used to seeing the Swedish flag on all sorts of occasions. I believe the flag is one of the world's oldest. We never saw it as a political tool though. If you have a detached house with a big garden it's common to have a flag. The 6 June is Swedens National Day and is a public holiday. It used to be called Swedish Flag Day. As for the colours, blue and yellow, I don't think anybody really knows why they were chosen but the blue and yellow colours go back a long time in Swedish tradition. One GN poster thought the colours were not suitable; well... The intense blue of the Swedish sky is different in shade; we are also surrounded by a lot of blue water.

I now live in a terrace house and my garden is tiny as are all gardens in this area. During the 2016 referendum one neighbour erected a flagpole in his garden and flew and is still flying the Union Jack. I felt it sent a very strong message of the wrong kind.

I’ve been pondering this question for a couple of days now. I keep seeing this thread pop up but I will be honest and say that I haven’t read it all.

I think that flags were originally used for military purposes for the troops to rally behind, and I think that there is definitely still an element of that in the way it is used at times.

They are pretty old in origin and I found that the Saltaire is one of the oldest, with the Danish flag also having an ancient history.

Recent history has seen the Union Flag high jacked by political causes, in particular the far right, but a more moderate element has tried to re-claim the Union Flag in recent years with the result that the far right now use the St George’s Flag.

I think few would argue that in the past decade, the U.K. has been more divided both politically and economically than we have seen in our life time, and it seems that the government is beginning to wake up to this fact by trying to find common cause which the U.K. population can rally around, beginning it seems with the Union flag. Which is now eye wateringly evident whenever a government spokesman appears.

The irony is that it was this political party that cause the huge divisions in the first place.

The question is, will the population find common cause? Will Willy waving in the form of the Union Flag cut it?

I think not. What heals division, and creates pride in ones country is fairness in the economic system and a strong democracy.
Rallying behind the Union flag seems a tad sad and desperate.

It won’t work.

I seem to remember the EU flag, everywhere. ?

vegansrock

I think all this flag waving is an attempt to hold the tattered union together. Some of it looks ridiculous , shows some of these ministers to be really up themselves - who can have the biggest or most flags. yuk. I remember a programme about an eastern european state under communism, they were forced to have flags on their balconies on certain days - you faced a prison sentence if you didn’t. Sounds like some on here want to go down that road.

Hey, what a good idea ...

Gosh, this is a long thread. I haven't read it all yet, so, sorry if my comment appears when the conversation has gone off in another direction.

The comments at the beginning had me wondering if those flags in the backgrounds of people's video appearances had little labels in the hem which said "made in China".

Just wondering!

I think all this flag waving is an attempt to hold the tattered union together. Some of it looks ridiculous , shows some of these ministers to be really up themselves - who can have the biggest or most flags. yuk. I remember a programme about an eastern european state under communism, they were forced to have flags on their balconies on certain days - you faced a prison sentence if you didn’t. Sounds like some on here want to go down that road.

21:44NellG yesterday

Seek and ye shall find... ?

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Well who knew it was actually Queen Nicola posing in her living room who started the flag craze?

NellG I've never seen 'Fight Club' but often see references to it. Do you recommend I watch it, will it bring enlightenment?
I always think black doesn't show creases so much, don't bother to iron it.