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Flying the flag

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varian Sat 20-Mar-21 13:51:47

Does the display of union jacks by politicians making video calls from their homes not just appear ridiculous, but a tad sinister?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/19/flag-of-convenience-why-ministers-cant-get-enough-of-the-union-jack

Ilovecheese Sat 20-Mar-21 13:59:46

Don't think so, just daft.

varian Sat 20-Mar-21 14:02:45

It does look as if the Tory Party are trying to misuse the union jack in the same way that the SNP misuse the saltire.

These national flags belong to all of us, not to any political party.

Pantglas2 Sat 20-Mar-21 14:07:11

In Spain its de rigour to have the Spanish flag in your home and I was informed that my 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 couldn’t be bigger than 🇪🇸! Seems size does matter after all......😇

Kamiso Sat 20-Mar-21 14:11:36

My Norwegian friends both decorated their Christmas trees with their national flag.

If it’s their living room they are entitled to do whatever they like without being judged and found guilty.

SueDonim Sat 20-Mar-21 14:17:10

It’s very common in America to have the Stars & Stripes on display in or around your house.

Greyduster Sat 20-Mar-21 14:20:02

I think the last three posts say it all. I would like to ask why is it daft?

varian Sat 20-Mar-21 14:20:39

Do you really believe that they always had union jacks in their living rooms, or studies or cupboards or wherever they zoom from? It looks like they are under instruction to fly flags when zooming.

Some also have portraits of the queen and I can just about believe they had them anyway but the flags indoors look positively Trumpian.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 20-Mar-21 14:29:04

Americans were displaying their flag outside and inside many many years before Donald Trump became POTUS.

It is not a new thing for politicians worldwide to have their national flag behind them when making a speech.

Kamiso Sat 20-Mar-21 14:33:23

People are now hiring different backgrounds for their zoom tv appearances! You can be who you always wanted to be.

kittylester Sat 20-Mar-21 14:33:41

Actually, I think it is a good thing to show pride in the Uk. I'll hide behind the sofa now.

And, I thought Naga and Charlie were very sneery to Robert Jenrick!

Bridgeit Sat 20-Mar-21 14:34:19

They just don’t want us to see their home decor, simple😀

Elegran Sat 20-Mar-21 14:44:26

Perhaps it should be more common for ALL parties to show the union jack (or union flag - see www.flaginstitute.org/wp/british-flags-2/the-union-jack-or-the-union-flag/) ?

If they all used it for press conferences etc it would stop being the preserve of one party.

Oopsadaisy1 Sat 20-Mar-21 14:45:02

If they are on TV in their official capacity then the flag should be shown and I’ve always thought that.
I dont watch the BBC to hear their presenters mock our flag, in fact I don’t watch them to hear their views on anything, they are supposed to be impartial.

I think that at the very least they should both make a Public apology and be suspended, unless of course their thoughts and deeds echo the BBCs......in which case I will stop watching it.

Greyduster Sat 20-Mar-21 14:54:41

not just appear ridiculous but a tad sinister. I think what is sinister is that there are those who think that our national flag is an object of derision and ridicule.

varian Sat 20-Mar-21 15:00:33

The national flag could only be made an object of derision if a political party tried to appropriate it for its own ends as the SNP has done with the saltire.

The recent rash of flags in the homes of every Tory politician is a tad sinister.

Ilovecheese Sat 20-Mar-21 15:01:43

But nobody, surely, has such huge flags in their home normally. That's why it looks daft.

Bridgeit Sat 20-Mar-21 15:02:56

I am one of many who are Coronation Babies, still have my mug & Coronation coin. ..... I agree with you Greyduster, 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧👑👑👑

Vickysponge Sat 20-Mar-21 15:09:00

Greyduster

^not just appear ridiculous but a tad sinister^. I think what is sinister is that there are those who think that our national flag is an object of derision and ridicule.

Completely agree. Nothing ‘sinister’ about showing our flag. Well said Greyduster. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

GrannyGravy13 Sat 20-Mar-21 15:10:02

varian

The national flag could only be made an object of derision if a political party tried to appropriate it for its own ends as the SNP has done with the saltire.

The recent rash of flags in the homes of every Tory politician is a tad sinister.

Easy solution, opposition parties fly the flag also, after all it is the Flag of the United Kingdom, which employs them?

GagaJo Sat 20-Mar-21 15:15:41

Yes, I think it's unnecessary Varian. And too American for me. I think the Brits combine a unique combination of holding their government to account, while also having a very good sense of national identity. All the flag waving does is make us look like Little Britoner, nationalists.

It is a bit too 'draw up the drawbridge' for me. Me are a tiny island. It is not sensible to isolate ourselves.

GagaJo Sat 20-Mar-21 15:16:12

WE are a tiny island (sorry!)

varian Sat 20-Mar-21 15:28:35

"Easy solution, opposition parties fly the flag also, after all it is the Flag of the United Kingdom, which employs them?" posts GG13

Do we really want to see flags every time we see a politician?

That would lead to the point where no-one could be elected or keep his seat without flags behind him at all times.

Unfortunately I fear that Keir Starmer may be joining the flag flyers, perhaps feeling he needs the validation.

We should fly the flag in a meaningful way - at significant national events, at the Olympics or when athletes are representing the country, at international conferences or at the UN where the UK delegate has a small union jack in front of her, not just to boost the profile of politicians.

If anyone wants to fly the flag in their garden, or have a sticker on their car, that's fine.

I'm not sure about Mat Hancock's union jack covid mask, it seems just a small step away from the union jack underpants, popular in the eighties, which I always thought rather disrespectful.

GagaJo Sat 20-Mar-21 15:31:38

Or maybe we should all just be secure in our identity as British. I don't need a flag to tell me who I am.

Unfortunately, excessive flag waving smacks of the extreme right wing.

Gwyneth Sat 20-Mar-21 15:33:14

No what’s wrong with displaying the National Flag?