Is MILF an acceptable term?

MaizieD

As I suspected. It's not the sentiment but the language which is upsetting everyone. Because to pretend that no-one acts as a sexual being is sheer and utter hypocrisy. I'm actually stunned to find that many of you haven't recovered from the Victorian era yet.

I'm with trisher, I find his Saudi connection more worrying but I note that he was selected to be, and elected as, an MP under Corbyn.

Oh come on Maizie who’s pretending no one acts as a sexual being? This is about an adult male, a medical leader in his local community at the time tweeting inappropriate sexual comments - and not just the once either.

Sorry that wasnt to you Maizie.

Dear God.

As I suspected. It's not the sentiment but the language which is upsetting everyone. Because to pretend that no-one acts as a sexual being is sheer and utter hypocrisy. I'm actually stunned to find that many of you haven't recovered from the Victorian era yet.

I'm with trisher, I find his Saudi connection more worrying but I note that he was selected to be, and elected as, an MP under Corbyn.

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I was rather flattered 15 years ago when my sons friend described me as a MILF he was however only 15!! I would not like to think that if he were to become famous someone would find that FB post out and let it haunt him for ever.
I am still living on the back of that comment 15 years on?

I suppose the most critical were never silly and were youths of great saintliness.

He was 38 at the time!

It is relevant he’s a GP - there’s guidance from the GMC. Here’s a bit

‘The standards expected of doctors do not change because they are communicating through social media rather than face to face or through other traditional media. However, using social media creates new circumstances’

Sorry notspaghetti, I hadn't really been following this story and had just got the impression the relevant material had been posted when he was about 17 or 18. I quite agree, such a post, at 40 is unacceptable

Good point Doodledog, but as we frequently see in the media or even on GN, you can never move on from past mistakes whilst there are still people who remember, or who will go out of their way to drag it up via Google.
That term was and is inappropriate. The fact that it may have been an ‘in’ thing to say 10 years ago doesn’t make it OK then or now. Do we know if he still holds the same view now?

I m told by the younger generation who are shocked by our (elders) shock at the ‘f’ word that it is very innocent and a normal expression that isn’t thought of as rude or offensive by them in the least it is on the same level as ‘dam’ or darn it to us and not shocking to them
This doesn’t have a lot to do with the man and his tweets but just an add on to the general discussion of ‘bad’ language
The acronym mentioned has been round a long time and I haven’t heard it used for years I think it went out of general usage a good while ago

By using that term, he is revealing a certain mindset, which IMO
is not an attribute that is very pleasant found in any man let alone one who is wanting to be a political candidate.

I'm torn on this one.

On one hand the man appears to be a bit of a prat. I don't think the term is appropriate for anyone to use (I can't honestly say why the fact that he is/was a GP is relevant - they don't take vows of chastity or forswear impure thoughts any more than any other professional group), but on the other hand, I don't like the idea that the opposition can trawl through anyone's history (on either side of the political divide) and use passing comments to discredit them.

I agree with whoever said upthread that 10 years ago people probably thought that Twitter was akin to chatting with friends, however naive that sounds now.

It's bit like posting on here, I think. I'm sure that there are people on GN who are very sure of their own unassailable virtue, but honestly - would you want someone picking up on everything you had ever said (in or out of context) and using it against you ten years later? People's opinions and behaviour do change over the years (adults as well as callow youths), and I think we should all be able to move on from past mistakes.

I still think he sounds like a bit of a prat though .

I think one of the problems that will exist if stupid actions like this are permitted to define a man for ever is that men will develop the correct procedure and vocabulary but still harbour a deep dislike for women which will emerge in other ways. I find the Saudi connection far more worrying. If that didn't put Keir Starmer off supporting him you start to wonder what would? Anyone less suitable to be a Labour candidate I can't imagine.

Doesn’t sit well with me, I think it is a degrading term, which in my opinion should cast doubt on this persons integrity to be considered as a candidate for any political party.

? Well! - learn some new every day. Wish I could unlearn that one. Disgusting.
Not acceptable if that info is still out on him I think he should bow out.

People are very unforgiving.

And yet, even Prime Ministers (not thinking of the current one at the moment, as it happens) have been forgiven for taking illegal drugs.

I suppose the most critical were never silly and were youths of great saintliness.

It must have been ok to vote for a man who made racist remarks, amongst other things in a news paper column and impregnated various women whilst married to his wife though. That appears to have not registered with most people.

M0nica it was ten years ago when he was nearly 40 (not a callow youth) and a doctor.
I would be dismayed if my sons were tweeting this kind of stuff at any age - let alone my GP.

Dreadful term but it was ten years ago so I trust his mindset has changed. The current Prime Minister eg has over the years used dreadful terminology plus fathering numerous children with different mothers - is that acceptable?

Heavens sake, it was ten years ago. He was a stupid young lad. Since then he has become a qualifid doctor and grown up.

I am reminded of the gospel incident when the Pharisees wanted to stone a woman caught in adultery. Jesus was there and said 'Let him without sin throw the first stone.' - and one by one they slunk away.

I think anyone wanting to cancel someone for a remark made 10 years ago as a cslloe youth, should first declare in public that they have never used an opprobrious word or thought an impious thought for at least twenty years and only then open their mouth or post on social media any condemnation of this yourg man.

Willie Rennie, leader of the Scottish Liberal Democrats has told its spring conference that the Scottish Lib Dems’ equalities spokeswoman Caron Lindsay has proposed a commission to look into violence against women and girls, to consider ways to make society more hospitable.

She has invited all major parties to commit to it, to examine the issues and make recommendations within the first year of the new Scottish Parliament.

Yes that's always a possibility.

Galaxy

It's not that they dont get caught it's that they are too clever/Twitter savvy to put out a wrong tweet. But if they gained power the results for women would be so much worse than a sexist arse who has apologised. It's a bit like the way women thought all the danger to their rights was coming from the right wing only to turn around and realise that a sizeable part of the left absolutely hated women and were really quite dangerous as well.

I understand now what you meant. But there’s another possibility - there could be another good candidate isn’t a ‘sexist arse’ at all ?

It's not that they dont get caught it's that they are too clever/Twitter savvy to put out a wrong tweet. But if they gained power the results for women would be so much worse than a sexist arse who has apologised. It's a bit like the way women thought all the danger to their rights was coming from the right wing only to turn around and realise that a sizeable part of the left absolutely hated women and were really quite dangerous as well.