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total of 594 complaints against Met employees between 2012 and 2018. 119 were uPheld. Of those, 63 led to dismissals. Retirements or resignations. ‘How many were charged with misconduct in a public office or sexual offences?’ (Nadir Afzal)
These were serious offences, against women and children.
PC Oliver Banfield 25 yrs was sentenced to a curfew and £500 fine after attacking a woman, physically and sexually assaulting her. He was off duty, drunk and acting our a scenario in which he ‘arrested’ her.
What to do?
PC Oliver Banfield resigned after assaulting a woman as she walked home.
No action being taken regarding the assault.
Just on C4 news, the CPS has apologised to the woman attacked by the police officer for not charging him in the first place. So why didn’t they? Now his sentence needs increasing
They are considering doing him for gross misconduct but not the actual assault.
What on earth is going on in this country?
Whitewavemark2
PC Oliver Banfield resigned after assaulting a woman as she walked home.
No action being taken regarding the assault.
????
Our post keep crossing?? I’ll stop now as watching Mr Perry.
Not to detract from this discussion, but I wonder how many complaints are made to the GMC and upheld, another organisation of trust. The date seems difficult to find, Iam64 I assume your data was relatively easy to find?
Jaxjacky
Not to detract from this discussion, but I wonder how many complaints are made to the GMC and upheld, another organisation of trust. The date seems difficult to find, Iam64 I assume your data was relatively easy to find?
Yes it does detract - this thread is about the police not other professionals across the board. There are issues about all regulated professionals of course but I don’t think it helps to discuss them altogether
My apologies suziewoozie lips sealed.
Jaxjacky
My apologies suziewoozie lips sealed.
No it’s for me to apologise - I was unacceptably snippy. I think the issue of how we deal with unacceptable behaviour of those in positions of trust is really important - doctors, dentists, nurses, a whole raft of other health and care professionals. The police are not dealt with in the same way - they are not regulated as are the ones mentioned who have to be on a register to practice.
Some of the issues raised in the links not provided show some of the problems that have existed for years and still do.The IOPC is in its nth reincarnation and still imo is not fit for purpose and don’t get me started on the CPS. That apology tonight to that poor girl. No explanation at all. And Banfield’s joke of a ‘punishment’. And the mother of those two murdered women still waiting to hear about the officers who photographed her dead daughters. There’s no bloody hope is there? Sorry again
suziewoozie As for people being reported missing and the police taking it seriously sooner, there are many voices in support of this and a belief that relatives/friends concerns should be taken more seriously.
The problem is there simply aren't the numbers of police to do this, police numbers have been shrinking for years, and their workload has increased. Retention of decent officers is becoming a real problem. I have police family members and can assure you regarding those who took selfies etc there is widespread disgust and condemnation. Good police hate being tarred with those abhorrent ones. And just for good measure, every police officer I know has condemned the new bill saying not only is it draconian, but unworkable.
Rosie51
suziewoozie As for people being reported missing and the police taking it seriously sooner, there are many voices in support of this and a belief that relatives/friends concerns should be taken more seriously.
The problem is there simply aren't the numbers of police to do this, police numbers have been shrinking for years, and their workload has increased. Retention of decent officers is becoming a real problem. I have police family members and can assure you regarding those who took selfies etc there is widespread disgust and condemnation. Good police hate being tarred with those abhorrent ones. And just for good measure, every police officer I know has condemned the new bill saying not only is it draconian, but unworkable.
Yes I know you’re right about there not being enough police officers and we know who cut the numbers . I also absolutely believe you about all the decent police officers. My complaint is why is it taking so long to deal with this case ( the photos of the murdered sisters) It’s so egregious it should have been fast tracked. - their poor mother. Justice delayed is justice denied
suziewoozie
Rosie51
suziewoozie As for people being reported missing and the police taking it seriously sooner, there are many voices in support of this and a belief that relatives/friends concerns should be taken more seriously.
The problem is there simply aren't the numbers of police to do this, police numbers have been shrinking for years, and their workload has increased. Retention of decent officers is becoming a real problem. I have police family members and can assure you regarding those who took selfies etc there is widespread disgust and condemnation. Good police hate being tarred with those abhorrent ones. And just for good measure, every police officer I know has condemned the new bill saying not only is it draconian, but unworkable.Yes I know you’re right about there not being enough police officers and we know who cut the numbers . I also absolutely believe you about all the decent police officers. My complaint is why is it taking so long to deal with this case ( the photos of the murdered sisters) It’s so egregious it should have been fast tracked. - their poor mother. Justice delayed is justice denied
Justice delayed is justice denied couldn't agree more and know my family members totally support this. The cogs move exceedingly slow.
As a total aside, but very illustrative, one of my sons has recently moved to a very specialised group within the police. It was over a year of investigating every member of his extended family, including a brother who emigrated over 20 years ago.
The figures came from a Guardian article jax.
Rosie, thanks for upto date personal information
Just heard a female chief superintendent from the met talking about changes in the way sexual assaults will be investigated. The focus to be on the behaviour of the alleged perpetrator. Not before time. Why is the alcohol consumption of the rape victim seen as a contributor and the alcohol consumed by the rapist as an excuse
Iam64
The figures came from a Guardian article jax.
Rosie, thanks for upto date personal information
Just heard a female chief superintendent from the met talking about changes in the way sexual assaults will be investigated. The focus to be on the behaviour of the alleged perpetrator. Not before time. Why is the alcohol consumption of the rape victim seen as a contributor and the alcohol consumed by the rapist as an excuse
I just sigh reading this I’m afraid. The same old same old story of changing how sexual assaults will be investigated. And it’s not just the police is if ? Yesterday’s all too familiar apology from the CPS re failures in prosecution. And then the sentence given to Banfield by a judge with form in minimising the seriousness of male behaviour towards women. We need to have a pool of specially trained judges to deal with the whole range of sexual assaults ( as we do with family court judges)? So forgive my complete and utter cynicism when a police officer no matter how female or how senior talks about changes ahead.
I wonder if the cps/police will appeal Banfield’s sentence. It was totally wrong, on every level. That offence didn’t appear from nowhere, triggered by him drinking too much. He will have masturbated to the fantasy. I fear his response to the sentence will be to see it as recognition that he behaved ‘out of character’ after a few beers.
I’ve read the Judge has a track record of giving this kind of nonsense sentence to sex offenders.
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