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The Conservatives have claimed Good Friday

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suziewoozie Fri 02-Apr-21 23:04:23

Just when you think they can’t sink any lower

Anniebach Sat 03-Apr-21 10:32:28

So he used the cross and now some here are using the cross to
score political points,

Callistemon Sat 03-Apr-21 10:29:30

No - atheists do not classify Jesus the same as father christmas. Jesus is an historical figure

St Nicholas (Santa Claus) was an historical figure too.

Beckett Sat 03-Apr-21 10:29:25

It would appear Christians on GN are not offended - just those who disagree with his politics and/or atheists hmm

JaneJudge Sat 03-Apr-21 10:28:59

I still don't understand why we have to eat fish

Callistemon Sat 03-Apr-21 10:27:36

Jaxjacky

I wouldn’t have seen it if it hadn’t been posted here.

Me neither.

I don't think it's an official poster, it's something some minister concocted and put on his Twitter feed.

A daft thing to do particularly as he has done a good job with the vaccination programme.
What was he thinking?

maddyone Sat 03-Apr-21 10:23:23

Thanks for the info suzie

suziewoozie Sat 03-Apr-21 10:19:06

maddyone

I’m not entirely sure what the poster means. Where is it?

It’s on Twitter and it means that the Conservatives have plumbed new depths

suziewoozie Sat 03-Apr-21 10:16:42

Beckett

It seems what people here are "offended" by is the fact it was a Conservative who posted it. Anyone reading his twitter account would be aware of his politics - but don't let that stop the hate fest against him.

I wonder if there would be a similar reaction if a Labour Party shadow minister posted when it is Eid-ul-Adha, Maulid-Al-Nabi or Ramadan and put the Labour logo at the bottom. Probably not, certainly not on GN

I’m not offended - I don’t use that word - I posted it as an example of the utter cynicism of the present government in appropriating anything that suits them and that nothing is off limits. There’s been several posts discussing the difference between Good Friday and the other examples you give.

maddyone Sat 03-Apr-21 10:16:25

I didn’t mean the poster as in Gransnetter, I meant the poster, tweet, advert, or whatever it is.

maddyone Sat 03-Apr-21 10:15:40

I’m not entirely sure what the poster means. Where is it?

Franbern Sat 03-Apr-21 10:12:28

Anniebach - No - atheists do not classify Jesus the same as father christmas. Jesus is an historical figure. One, amongst many at that time and place, who saw themselves as some sort of saviour for their oppressed countrypeople (suppose rather like Farage now!!). Okay,maybe a lot nicer than Farage!!!

Yes, we would classify father christmas, the tooth fairy and god(s) in the same way. Along with Unicorns, etc.

suziewoozie Sat 03-Apr-21 10:11:15

GrannyGravy13

suziewoozie

Septimia

It's clearly a misunderstanding of the relevance of Good Friday to Christians.

The Eid and Passover ones are acknowledging a celebration.

Zahawi has missed the point here and should have waited to post a Happy Easter meassage.

This absolutely - but he hasn’t missed the point has he ? He’s deliberately associated the Conservatives with the ultimate Christian message of Good Friday. Wishing someone Happy Eid/Easter/Diwali is not the same (as you say).

But he didn’t wish people a happy Good Friday did he?

No where on that poster (that I can see) does it say Happy Good Friday ?

No of course he didn’t- terms no such thing as a Happy Good Friday . If he’d left it to Monday it coukd have been Happy Easter - and that encompasses bunnies, Easter eggs and whatever else religious or otherwise you want to take from it. Good Friday is of a totally different order and symbolism. He could have tweeted it without the word Conservative on and their logo and just about got away with it as just the usual jumping on the religious bandwagon but he turned the graphic of the Good Friday cross into a party political poster.

Ellianne Sat 03-Apr-21 10:09:52

Yes, it's back to this 1000 words in a picture thing.
Both use the symbol of the cross to convey a different message about which I am puzzled.

Smileless2012 Sat 03-Apr-21 10:08:39

"many don't reflect on the meaning of Easter because we don't believe in that" as was acknowledged in my post Galaxy.

Beckett Sat 03-Apr-21 10:07:45

It seems what people here are "offended" by is the fact it was a Conservative who posted it. Anyone reading his twitter account would be aware of his politics - but don't let that stop the hate fest against him.

I wonder if there would be a similar reaction if a Labour Party shadow minister posted when it is Eid-ul-Adha, Maulid-Al-Nabi or Ramadan and put the Labour logo at the bottom. Probably not, certainly not on GN

suziewoozie Sat 03-Apr-21 10:05:39

Ellianne

Thank you Jane. I put the two images side by side to compare from a visual point of view. The colour and graphics say two very different things but I won't bore anyone.

The message is also very different isn’t it not just the graphics and colour.

Ellianne Sat 03-Apr-21 10:03:43

Thank you Jane. I put the two images side by side to compare from a visual point of view. The colour and graphics say two very different things but I won't bore anyone.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 03-Apr-21 10:03:42

suziewoozie

Septimia

It's clearly a misunderstanding of the relevance of Good Friday to Christians.

The Eid and Passover ones are acknowledging a celebration.

Zahawi has missed the point here and should have waited to post a Happy Easter meassage.

This absolutely - but he hasn’t missed the point has he ? He’s deliberately associated the Conservatives with the ultimate Christian message of Good Friday. Wishing someone Happy Eid/Easter/Diwali is not the same (as you say).

But he didn’t wish people a happy Good Friday did he?

No where on that poster (that I can see) does it say Happy Good Friday ?

suziewoozie Sat 03-Apr-21 10:02:58

janeainsworth

I’ll just leave this here.....perhaps we should leave the politicians to their dirty point scoring and cultural appropriation and let them get on with it.

This is quite different and you know it.

suziewoozie Sat 03-Apr-21 10:00:30

Septimia

It's clearly a misunderstanding of the relevance of Good Friday to Christians.

The Eid and Passover ones are acknowledging a celebration.

Zahawi has missed the point here and should have waited to post a Happy Easter meassage.

This absolutely - but he hasn’t missed the point has he ? He’s deliberately associated the Conservatives with the ultimate Christian message of Good Friday. Wishing someone Happy Eid/Easter/Diwali is not the same (as you say).

Galaxy Sat 03-Apr-21 09:56:47

Smileless many of dont reflect on the meaning of Easter because we dont believe in that.

Galaxy Sat 03-Apr-21 09:55:35

We know about the misogyny racism etc on Twitter. Some of us have watched it for years so dont really need it explaining. That doesnt mean it doesnt have an enormous reach.

janeainsworth Sat 03-Apr-21 09:55:06

Ellianne
When was the green and yellow one posted Jane? Is it 2021 or just an old stock image?

I’ve just checked & it was posted on Facebook in 2019.
Obviously the cultural appropriation’s been going on for a whilewink

Smileless2012 Sat 03-Apr-21 09:52:48

I understand that Ellianne, I've certainly not seen anything like it before and I wouldn't have seen this had it not been here on GN.

Many enjoy the Easter break and Christmas without any thought to what they are in celebration of. Maybe some who see this will reflect on the true meaning of Easter especially after such a difficult year.

If this wasn't unusual because it's rarely seen unless it's outside a church or other places of worship, perhaps there would be a less cynical reaction.

Alegrias1 Sat 03-Apr-21 09:49:33

Oh FGS. I know the Queen doesn't update her own Twitter account. But the Firm obviously think that having a twitter account is important for communicating with the population and have set one up in her name. Ergo, there are people and organisations who consider Twitter to be important and "not" a cess pit.

I have no idea of the racial abuse? You have no idea what I have an idea about. How patronising.