A year of Starmer What do you think?

Where we differ is that you are unable to see a minor incident that could have happened to any politician for what it was - a minor incident.
Careers are lost over such incidents. Anyone remember Gordon Brown and that "bigoted woman"?

If we are to have reasoned discussions let's at least have them on the basis of fact.
One photograph taken is not the same as arguing with the man whose pub you want to enter.
I googled attacks on Corbyn and only came up with the egg throwing incident and I'm sure if there had been more they would have been widely publicised.
Finally a 28% approval rating in March 2020 rising to an approval level of 32% in March 2021 is not a 12% improvement. And in fact the approval rate rose but is now falling. But why worry about facts and accuracy when you are supporting Starmer??

Galaxy me too, why bother with reasoned discussions?

Here’s the latest opinion poll, which shows 12% improvement since March 2020 - but why worry about that little detail?
www.statista.com/statistics/985764/voting-intention-in-the-uk/

I must say it made me stop and think

Thank you for that intelligent eloquent explanation of why you don’t like Starmer posh paws.

Starmer is a spineless, watered down Tory. Labour are going to dissolve into oblivion if they continue to have this limp noodle as their Party leader.

Yes that's what's been said on this thread. You have completely nailed it.

It's a classic example of what many have complained of on GN the inability of Labour to connect with ordinary people. But I don't expect the Starmer supporters to acknowledge anything is amiss- it was all the fault of Corbyn and us left wingers!

That’s right – Starmer insulted Mr Humphris, saying, “I really don’t need lectures from you.” Then he had the cheek to walk into the pub run by the man he had just insulted!

Then one of Starmer’s ‘minders’ blocked the landlord from entering his own establishment, knocking his glasses to the ground in the process, and manhandled him into a stairwell. That seems to be the reason he accused the man of assault.

Starmer finally made his escape, passing Mr Humphris his glasses as he did so.

It is no way to behave in front of the electorate.

The way Starmer stayed put while his muscle mistreated his host indicates an appalling sense of entitlement – that the Labour leader thinks he has a right to go wherever he damn well pleases, without so much as a “by your leave” to the relevant authorities.

Casdon

Hot off the press.
news.sky.com/story/elections-2021-labour-in-touching-distance-of-welsh-parliament-majority-new-poll-says-12281089

16 and 17 year olds will be able to vote which could make a difference too.

Unplanned incidents happen to all politicians on walkabouts at one time or another, for example..
www.reuters.com/article/britain-election-photograph/uk-labour-leader-corbyn-suffers-the-curse-of-the-election-photo-gaffe-idINKBN17Z1BL.
Corbyn did suffer the same level of vitriol, I won’t bore everybody but there are plenty of incidents online to look up if others can be bothered.
I don’t think Starmer deliberately misrepresented what happened, he interpreted it to try to make sense of it. Whatever you think of him he is not stupid. Where we differ is that you are unable to see a minor incident that could have happened to any politician for what it was - a minor incident.

Not questions about the walkabout Casdon but things like "Why are you supporting a leader who can't even do a walkabout.,,,,etc" It's questions about Starmer.
I only brought up Corbyn because he has been so vilified and yet he never encountered such vitriol.
Of course no politician would have handled it well which is why it should never have happened (but it did). How did he handle it well ? By making a statement afterwards completely misrepresenting the questions that were fired at him? You may support him but surely even the most ardent supporter can see the way this will undermine him.

As DPP he was astute and nimble of mind. He plans, studies his brief and can outflank Johnson any time. However, Covid, has been a strange and terrible situation thereby establishing a need to support the Government as fighting between parties would not be welcome. However, Starmer’s personality is the opposite of Johnson’s blustering and shambolic behaviour and as a result he is easily underestimated. Personally I prefer intelligence and care any day to the risk taking of our Prime Minister.

We disagree that it was a cock up trisher that's all. There are things that Starmer has done that I dont agree with, I would be happy to say that because I dont believe in a cult like following of a leader. This wasnt one of those things.

What questions about the walkabout need answering though trisher. - if there are any it’s between the two owners of the pub.

You said earlier that it was the ‘anti Corbyn’ crew earlier that keep on bringing him up, and yet you keep doing it? I don’t think anybody said specifically that he couldn’t organise walkabouts did they - that wasn’t why he was ousted as we all know. I have no opinion on whether he would have managed this particular situation differently, but in any case it’s irrelevant.

Name any politician who would have had their ‘ finest moment’ when faced with this landlord who had clearly been sitting on his anger about lockdown for some time - it was plain that it was about the direct impact on his business. In the circumstances, Starmer did well in my opinion. I know your antipathy towards him would forbid that you could see anything he does well, but we don’t all share your opinion as you know.

trisher I cannot recall you ever admit Corbyn screwed things up, not even when he said of the wreath laying for the murderers of an Olympic team -

‘I was present but I don’t think I was actually involved in it’

Because he didn’t screw up. Can I ask why you hate him so much? I didn’t particularly like Corbyn but I still supported him and acknowledge him to be a good decent person who wanted to do the best for his country. I feel the same way about Keir. He could be raking in the money from his previous profession but chose to go into politics to make the world a better place. I suppose you think he has an ulterior motive. To keep the Conservative government in power forever? Methinks Corbyn did a good job of that.

It was often said that Corbyn couldn't organise anything and so was unfit to run the country.Organising a walkabout isn't difficult and anyone who thinks they aren't usually carefully orchestrated is just naive.
Interesting isn't it that questions aren't answered.. Was this Keir's finest moment -well no of course it wasn't. Why won't his supporters admit he screwed up? Perhaps because they sense his position is precarious. And they are so concerned to protect a failing leader that they can't even permit a laugh about him.

I thought he handled a very angry person quite well. It's really not at all being seen as a farce.
Cant speak for anyone else but I am supporting him for a number of reasons , hes intelligent and I like that in a leader and I think he has a chance of making labour electable, however I understand that this is a long term strategy, I think its unlikely he will be PM but he will move the party to electability. A walkabout is really nothing to worry about if you are thinking strategically.

We all saw the same footage. It’s amazing how personal antipathy can influence what you take from it. It was not incompetence by even the most fanciful leap of imagination.

...suppose Keir could have hid behind a pillar.....

So the most important thing about a party leader is that they do good walkabouts?

Oh come on MaizieD it's a farce. And it wasn't just about lockdown (although I appreciate Starmer is trying to make it so). The man asked why the lack of pandemic preparations wasn't raised and questioned. I didn't see all this criticism when people were slagging off Corbyn. But if you can't laugh at incompetence without being accused of promoting Toryism well democracy is dead.
I'll turn it on it's head. Why are you supporting a Labour leader who can't even do a walkabout without screwing it up?

trisher

Oh I think that's true but it's a classic example of how not to do a walkabout. Even Bumbling Boris manages things better.

How is it a classic example of how not to do a walkabout?

Should he have made sure that the only people he would meet would be Labour supporters who agreed with how he was handling the job of Leader? Are you saying that walkabouts should be completely set up events? Like Johnson's?

trisher. Whose side are you on because you’re doing a pretty good job of selling the Conservative party to people?