Covid funeral rules ..yes it's about PP funeral

Anniebach

Was it not because of a woman who walked behind the coffin,
something to do with politics

Wasn't she Deputy Leader of the NI Assembly? A Nationalist.

How many funerals have people seen on TV where the deceased is extremely well known and very well liked and the route of the funeral cortege is lined with hundreds of people paying their respects? I really can't see that the presence of a military band is really much different in virus spreading terms.

Outdoor gatherings of lots of people, such as the rush to the coast last summer, have NOT been associated with any superspreading of the virus. The bandsmen will be fine, especially if there's a bit of a breeze to blow the aerosols away.

As for the 'It's not fair', brigade, well, it's not fair that 53% of voters didn't vote tory in 2019, or that 48% of voters have been yanked out of the EU against their will. As we are incessantly told, 'Life's not fair'; so let's hope they get over it in much the same way that we in the 53% & 48% have had to...

Ellianne

^for me, best avoided, nice day at seaside planned.^
Shame it's a Saturday suziewoozie. Take care, the beaches are pretty packed over the weekend. (As this thread is all about social distancing.)

I know where I’m going - I’m not daft and I’m not sharing so there ?.

for me, best avoided, nice day at seaside planned.
Shame it's a Saturday suziewoozie. Take care, the beaches are pretty packed over the weekend. (As this thread is all about social distancing.)

vegansrock

That IRA funeral with marching band in NI caused a stir.....just sayin

I was thinking of that

Was it not because of a woman who walked behind the coffin,
something to do with politics

vegansrock

That IRA funeral with marching band in NI caused a stir.....just sayin

Yes it did, but I doubt if we shall see hundreds of people? including politicians walking through the streets behind the cortège?

That IRA funeral with marching band in NI caused a stir.....just sayin

GrannyGravy13

Sorry prematurely posted.

Ceremonial duties is something that a lot of serving military personnel look forward to. After all they can be deployed to a war zone with less than 24 hours notice.

Yes, the bandsmen spend hours practising, rehearsing etc. They need a boost to their morale to get out and play. We had several bandsmens' children at our school and I learnt a lot about their lives and work.

Alegrias1

I quote Elliannne - This is just the same sort of work they get called on to do. Marching around playing a trumpet at a funeral isn't the same as organising country-wide life saving medical interventions. But you explained what you mean, I apologise if I misunderstood.

Yep, that's why I went back and altered it. It's the physical aspect of the work being discussed not the actual job.
No worries.

Sorry prematurely posted.

Ceremonial duties is something that a lot of serving military personnel look forward to. After all they can be deployed to a war zone with less than 24 hours notice.

There have been far more scenarios that I have found unacceptable under the current Covid restrictions, many before the rule of six applied.

We have an AC in the Forces, this is their job they have continued to work through all lockdowns.

I dread to think what the outcry would have been if Prince Philip’s death had occurred outside of this pandemic?

I quote Elliannne - This is just the same sort of work they get called on to do. Marching around playing a trumpet at a funeral isn't the same as organising country-wide life saving medical interventions. But you explained what you mean, I apologise if I misunderstood.

GrannyGravy13
People are legally allowed to work
Military marching bandsmarching= their work

That is undoubtedly true- but the issue for some is if they should be allowed to work in that particular way at this particular time.
Actually you might be right. Wasn't there some kind of military band performance recorded somewhere where they were very spaced apart? It might have been at Chritsmas with Huw Edwards BBC.

The beaches in Wales are swamped , the weekend it will be worse

GrannyGravy13

People are legally allowed to work

Military marching bands marching = their work

That is undoubtedly true- but the issue for some is if they should be allowed to work in that particular way at this particular time

GrannyGravy13

People are legally allowed to work

Military marching bands marching = their work

Exactly GrannyGravy. And by it's very nature involving large numbers of people in close proximity.

People are legally allowed to work

Military marching bands marching = their work

As for the suggestion that there is a parallel between this and the army being involved in vaccines.....well, I am actually speechless.
Why speechless, Alegrias? OK I didn't mean the nature of the actual jobs if that's how it sounded, but the way in which troops live and work together en masse and in close proximity to each other.

Its all relative Alegrias. Much less than in non COVID times but either way, for me, best avoided, nice day at seaside planned.

They will be outside and will probably be more spaced out than usual (distance that is!!!!). They have probably all been in a large bubble anyway. The virus doesn’t transmit easily outside so will be OK.

I started talking about this on another thread, sorry, I didn't realise one had already been started. I don't think that this is going to be a superspreader event, that's not the issue for me.

It was the fact that they got a lot of Brownie Points IMO for sticking to the Covid rules for funerals, asked people not to lay flowers etc. But suddenly we find there will be 750 service people marching around. So not a Covid era funeral at all.

As for the suggestion that there is a parallel between this and the army being involved in vaccines.....well, I am actually speechless.

Spared not shared obvs

I would say his funeral should reflect the situation we are all in and the rules we are all trying our best to abide by for the sake of ourselves and others. We had a burial (no funeral just outside in the snow) for a very close family member recently. It was made all the harder by the present restrictions but it is done and we will remember it even clearer than others because of the restrictions.

But hardly anybody gets a ceremonial funeral do they pandemic or no pandemic? COVID funerals have mostly been relatively less than normal and sometimes very sad indeed. We watched my dhs beloved aunts funeral online and I cried as the family walked in to the chapel - not being there to hug and share and say a proper goodbye. But I went to my neighbours actual funeral and it was able to be outside around the grave and was quite beautiful and moving with lovely poetry instead of hymns. Just the wake swapping stories and memories was missing and that was sad. I think PPs funeral is a sensible compromise and it’s a relief to be shared the full works.