Wills and Harry rift blown out of proportion

Interestingly I thought of this after I made my last post...

I'm not a monarchist, as most of you will probably know. But I would like to think that the Queen is not a small sad, widow, at least not only that. I would like to think that she continues her life of duty and would not wish to be thought of as a "small sad widow". I liked the image of her as she arrived at the chapel, when she looked behind her; I thought she was looking for her lady in waiting, as usual, wanting everything to be correct.

For me, that would be a better image; still in charge, still the Queen.

We know what the reaction would have been had the media concentrated on the other picture, Alegrias - shock horror that she had "chosen" to have the (fill in your own epithet) Andrew sitting so close to her. That would have gone round the world, too, without even an explanation that Andrew is the second son, the eldest being across from the Queen in a corr4esponding position, and the eldest (only) daughter being just along a bit from Andrew.

Just as the chosen picture has no explanation of how long she sat alone before the rest of her family joined her. The implication is that she had no support from her unfeeling and ultra-formal family. Of course what we see in the media is manipulated. It is manipulated to such a degree that most people don't even suspect it.

Elegran, you're on a roll tonight

She is small, she is a widow, she is Queen, she is a human being, she like us all, has emotions, she will continue as she has always done from a youngster, duty, duty, duty.

Her mother and sister died within 3 months , she continued with her duty.

I think she will miss him when she next goes to Balmoral, they
love it there .

She won't take on Queen Victoria's role of "the widow of Windsor", locking herself away after her husband and consort Albertn died aged only 42, and refusing to come out of her seclusion for ten years.

So much is said of her life of luxury, what sacrifices she may have made because of her dedication to her Coronation vows

Anniebach

And spare a thought for the Anglican priests who had to tell
couples - ‘sorry no, you can’t have a private marriage in the garden ‘, only to hear ‘Harry and Megan did’

Yes indeed. I'm sure that little exaggeration has caused no end of hurt among those struggling with trying to arrange a meaningful wedding during a pandemic.

It's a real pity the archbishop didn't knock it on the head straight away.

I can see the headline now: Meghan ruins the weddings of thousands of disappointed Brits - archbishop complicit

You have a vivid imagination Alegrias1 , did you not say you
use to work in advertising ?

That made me laugh. It's like a different university.

universe

Alegrias1

I can see the headline now: ^Meghan ruins the weddings of thousands of disappointed Brits - archbishop complicit^

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Algerias1 - ???

That some believed the lie of the secret marriage shows some will believe all their other lies, and will be supported by republicans not because they believe the lies but they are pleased mud was thrown at the royal family.

What a relief to find people who do not simply lap up all they see or read in the papers and such an excellent point about the body language! I never forget attending the filming of a tv production, it was a real eye opener into how the audience are “encouraged” until the right atmosphere for the particular programme is achieved. As for duty duty duty, there are people who do just that because they know nothing else and simply cannot contemplate a life not working, it’s part of their DNA and I am seeing some of their offspring follow the same pattern.

Anniebach

That some believed the lie of the secret marriage shows some will believe all their other lies, and will be supported by republicans not because they believe the lies but they are pleased mud was thrown at the royal family.

Who “believed “ ? Surely not so much a lie as a rather tactless wrong description of what happened? Just a thought, but if people prefer to call it a lie so be it.

Anyway back to the thread subject...... many families have disagreements ending with brief or prolonged rifts. Often these can be fixed with talking, as I understand Charles harry and William are doing., so that’s good.

So if a rather tactless wrong description of what happen in the garden can the same be said of the rest of the interview ?

Has Charles or William said they are talking ? Or the press ?

Prince Charles is in Wales, William in Norfolk and Harry in Windsor

Am not as au fait as you with every movement of the RF. I am only saying that the Times article says they met at Frogmore and talked. The current tenants seemingly made themselves scarce for the (possibly short ? Who knows?) meeting.

They can Skype .

Lucca I know Charles is in Wales, I read William has returned to Sandringham, not read or heard Harry has flown home.

I hope they did talk

Anniebach

And spare a thought for the Anglican priests who had to tell
couples - ‘sorry no, you can’t have a private marriage in the garden ‘, only to hear ‘Harry and Megan did’

Actually you probably can, you would need to get your place registered as a wedding venue and have a registrar present, I’ve forgotten the cost of that but that’s just what wedding venues do.

But the marriage can't be private;it has to be open to the public in case anyone wants to object; and there have to be two witnesses. So; we don't do 'private' weddings.

Actually now I think of it those requirements are ridiculous. Like a bygone age.

Katie59, there was no registrar, no witnesses and their garden was private property.

Following the rather dubious comment from the ubiquitous 'friends of Meghan' that she would not be attending the funeral because she did not want to be the centre of attention, there has been silence.
For that, much thanks.