... and the sleaze goes on ...

Jonathan Lis

Today feels like a turning point. The Electoral Commission believes reasonable grounds to suspect an offence. Johnson rattled and deflecting at PMQs. The crisis gathering momentum and its various strands steadily converging. Every prime minister is invincible until they aren’t.

You would be joining many of us GrannyGravy13. In some ways a complete collapse and re-organisation could be a blessing but I doubt that would happen - but then I didn't foresee a pandemic so no good relying on my predictions

PippaZ it’s no secret that I am a Conservative. If all these allegations are proven I shall find myself politically homeless

True and sorry. I have so far avoided all the RF posts and couldn't believe it had crept in elsewhere. I should have read it properly and not tried to do two things at once.

I notice the HuffPost has picked up on the Good Law information. This blending of party and government is really no suprise and yes, it is certainly very Trumpian.

PippaZ

Do we have to have the hijacking? Are the Con fans so afraid of talking about what their party and its leader is doing.

Could we just ignore the strawman posts?

Grany posted about Prince Andrew, Whitewavemark2 responded neither are Con fans (Unless they have seen the light )

I responded to their posts!!!!

pippa good idea

Do we have to have the hijacking? Are the Con fans so afraid of talking about what their party and its leader is doing.

Could we just ignore the strawman posts?

Whitewavemark1 I think we need Dinahmo who has more Company knowledge than I have.

I would have thought that however the Company is structured if it is registered in the UK that Accounts in some form would have to be submitted annually?

Whitewavemark2

Lucca

Re the flat improvements

When it was suggested that the flat was ok as was, one Tory said that you can’t expect the PM to live in a skip.

These people are unreal, aren't they?

How do they manage to get votes from the working classes? Or anyone, really?

Lucca

Re the flat improvements

When it was suggested that the flat was ok as was, one Tory said that you can’t expect the PM to live in a skip.

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

Grany

EXCLUSIVE: Prince Andrew has gone into business with a former Coutts banker who quit in disgrace over allegations of sexual harassment. They used a rare company structure to avoid filing public accounts.
@GeorgeGreenwood
& me on on
@thetimes
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Yes saw that but this really ought to go onto a RF thread.

There is a suggestion that Windsor set up the company before he was given the boot which would have been wrong.

Companies House will have a record of when the Limited Company was initially set up as the records are open to the public as will be the accounts (which have to be submitted yearly by law)

Not sure that is correct, they have used a weird company structure which avoids filing accounts etc.

Re the flat improvements

Whitewavemark2

Grany

EXCLUSIVE: Prince Andrew has gone into business with a former Coutts banker who quit in disgrace over allegations of sexual harassment. They used a rare company structure to avoid filing public accounts.
@GeorgeGreenwood
& me on on
@thetimes
frontpage

Yes saw that but this really ought to go onto a RF thread.

There is a suggestion that Windsor set up the company before he was given the boot which would have been wrong.

Companies House will have a record of when the Limited Company was initially set up as the records are open to the public as will be the accounts (which have to be submitted yearly by law)

Grany

EXCLUSIVE: Prince Andrew has gone into business with a former Coutts banker who quit in disgrace over allegations of sexual harassment. They used a rare company structure to avoid filing public accounts.
@GeorgeGreenwood
& me on on
@thetimes
frontpage

Yes saw that but this really ought to go onto a RF thread.

There is a suggestion that Windsor set up the company before he was given the boot which would have been wrong.

EXCLUSIVE: Prince Andrew has gone into business with a former Coutts banker who quit in disgrace over allegations of sexual harassment. They used a rare company structure to avoid filing public accounts.
@GeorgeGreenwood
& me on on
@thetimes
frontpage

Sleaze sounds quite of 'cute' - why use this term for what is, in real terms, multiple counts of pure FRAUD.

That post was copied from The Good Law Project

This month brought us the alarming sight of Boris Johnson hijacking a taxpayer-funded Downing Street press conference – intended to provide the public with a vital COVID-19 update – to attack one of his political opponents.

And over the last few weeks, we’ve seen a worrying new trend of Government videos and social media content being misappropriated to advance Conservative Party political messaging. And, we believe, the costs of both are coming out of the public purse, not the party coffers.

Several recent Government videos carry the distinct look and feel of a party political broadcast, brandishing the Tory electoral slogan “Build Back Better”, but prominently using the No 10 crest. And when you compare this No 10 branded image alongside the landing page of the Conservative Party website, it’s virtually impossible to distinguish which is Government policy and which is party political campaigning.


Make no mistake, this is Trumpian stuff. Especially when you consider we are now just a few weeks away from the biggest set of local elections on this side of a general election.

It is a legal requirement for Government to have a published policy for how it maintains a clear dividing line between informative communications, which can be properly funded by taxpayers, and electoral material, which is governed by strict campaign finance rules. Otherwise, those in power could simply divert the resources of the state to hold onto power.

Worryingly, our lawyers have been unable to locate any such policy about ensuring Government communications are not used deliberately, or inadvertently, for party political campaigning. And so far Government has chosen to ignore our requests to provide us with a copy.

This issue goes to the very heart of our democracy. We cannot allow this misuse of state resources to go unchallenged. We have issued the first step in formal legal proceedings. Our Pre-Action Protocol letter can be found here.

The case will be crowdfunded. If you’re in a position to donate to the legal challenge, you can do so here: www.crowdjustice.com/case/feathering-party-nest/

Kylie didn’t say.

That is what I thought MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

*Whitewavemark2*was that when David Cameron was PM?
as Mr.Kyle’s tweet does not make it clear.

I'm pretty sure that was when Cameron was PM.

Simon Case - the Cabinet Secretary was given a hefty drubbing yesterday when he appeared in front of the select committee yesterday and consistently refused to answer their questions.

Such lack of transparency does not aid Johnson’s cause nor give confidence that the leaks are not based on good evidence.

Whitewavemark2was that when David Cameron was PM?
as Mr.Kyle’s tweet does not make it clear.

Peter Kyle MP
@peterkyle
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We’ve just discovered #Greensill had a Downing Street pass, IT equipment and desk...but no contract or job description.

The culture in Downing Street is a petri dish for corruption.

More than £2bn in contracts politically connected to Tories may have come through priority channel, suggests new report
opendemocracy.net

“Systematic and partisan bias”