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The Queen and dedication to duty in the 21st Century

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Alegrias1 Tue 20-Apr-21 13:19:02

Does dedication to duty overwhelm any other consideration when it comes to being Head of State?

Why can a person stay in post, with all the deference that entails, when someone else is doing all the "work"?

Is anyone else worried that a 95 year old lady believes she has to keep on keeping on when many, many other monarchs have moved on in life and their countries haven't crumbled?

Grany Fri 23-Apr-21 09:54:04

If you watch the 1 minute video you will see why monarchy is corrupt It explains it better than I could.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=MGKP_iDlCnE

If we had a president he she would not allow corruption in government You see queen can't do anything except what her PM asks her to do.

Anniebach Fri 23-Apr-21 09:51:41

We elected Boris Johnson, the Labour Party elected Corbyn,

Chestnut Fri 23-Apr-21 09:41:35

Grany

We could honour a president democratically elected Head of State in stead of the corrupt monarchy How can you honour corruption?

In what way is our Queen and her family so corrupt? And presumably you think our democratically elected Prime Minister and government are pure of corruption?

Grany Fri 23-Apr-21 09:32:46

We could honour a president democratically elected Head of State in stead of the corrupt monarchy How can you honour corruption?

Alegrias1 Fri 23-Apr-21 09:31:06

Aye, C S Lewis.

The author who prevented Susan from entering paradise because she wore lipstick.

Chestnut Fri 23-Apr-21 09:28:13

Where men are forbidden to honour a king they honour millionaires, athletes or film stars instead: even famous prostitutes or gangsters. For spiritual nature, like bodily nature, will be served; deny it food and it will gobble poison - C.S. Lewis

Grany Fri 23-Apr-21 08:31:29

What replace the monarchy?

51 second video

m.youtube.com/watch?v=SNI0SOswY_I

Grany Fri 23-Apr-21 08:25:30

What will replace the monarchy?
Short new video 51 seconds.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=MGKP_iDlCnE

Callistemon Fri 23-Apr-21 00:16:22

jacqrose it's just the unfairness of the of an hereditary monarchy and all that goes with it that I've never been able to get my head around.

jacqrose

I don't think it is particularly fair on them either but they accept it with dignity, grace and a sense of duty.

Well, most of them do, there are always exceptions and leaving with a sense of grace and dignity would be understood by most people, I think.

Chestnut Thu 22-Apr-21 23:55:02

jacqrose it's just the unfairness of the of an hereditary monarchy and all that goes with it that I've never been able to get my head around.
You can't understand that being the sovereign is a role you have to train for from birth? It requires a deep understanding of what a lifetime of devotion and duty actually means. I doubt anyone other than someone in a direct line of descent could take all that on board.
Do you mean unfairness to them or to everyone else? It could be taken either way. Most people would not want the burden of such a role in life.

jacqrose Thu 22-Apr-21 22:33:27

Well I've offered it if you don't want to accept it that's up to you. I'm just being honest when I say that's what I think.

Anniebach Thu 22-Apr-21 22:17:02

Ooops, jacqrose apologies, I meant your apology was not genuine

Casdon Thu 22-Apr-21 21:54:25

www.statista.com/statistics/863893/support-for-the-monarchy-in-britain-by-age/
There you are jacqrose. Support for the monarchy grows with age, but all age groups apart from 18-24s are at least 60% in favour.

Anniebach Thu 22-Apr-21 21:41:36

jacqrose you were patronising , and as ‘this is how you see it’
your apology is genuine

Galaxy Thu 22-Apr-21 21:18:43

I think it will be interesting what happens with the younger generation, they consume news in a completely different way, I heard someone saying the other day that they wont even notice the demise of traditional media as it's so irrelevant to their lives.

jacqrose Thu 22-Apr-21 21:00:47

Apologies if you all feel patronised. It's how I see it. I'm actually quite broad minded about a number of topics, it's just the unfairness of the of an hereditary monarchy and all that goes with it that I've never been able to get my head around.

Anniebach Thu 22-Apr-21 20:57:10

Think several of us have been classed as the older generation , by a youngster perhaps ?

Callistemon Thu 22-Apr-21 20:16:06

I really cannot take your post seriously jacqrose

But I suppose you must believe it
?

Bridgeit Thu 22-Apr-21 20:14:24

You are quite wrong about it being only the older generation who are interested because they have nothing else going on, what a patronising small minded narrow outlook you have on life.

Anniebach Thu 22-Apr-21 20:14:03

So patronising jacqrose

jacqrose Thu 22-Apr-21 19:45:25

Chestnut die hards from the older generation who want a day out because they have very little else going on, foreign tourists and people who just happen to be in town. Overall, on any ordinary day of the week people aren’t that interested in the Windsors. That’s one of the reasons nothing changes. You and others have been loyal fans for so long you can’t accept that a hereditary monarchy is undemocratic because you don’t want to admit that you and the rest of us have been mugged. I’ll leave you in your blissful ignorance.

Grany Thu 22-Apr-21 18:50:47

Chestnut

jacqrose

Grany All that you’ve outlined there is true but there is a small minority, most of them on GN it would seem, that just want to wave their flags and doff their caps and look through rose coloured spectacles. Sometimes I think it’s kinder to just let them carry on believing.

Here is a picture of the 'small minority' waving their flags.

???

These people do not know about the corruption in public office for private gain the lobbying spending public money freely. The exemption from FOI secretive What have they got to hide. If people knew they wouldn't like it. The monarchy is thought to be above politics

Grany Thu 22-Apr-21 18:31:37

Here is a new shorter version one minute. Why we should get rid of the monarchy m.youtube.com/watch?v=MGKP_iDlCnE

What do you think?

Chestnut Thu 22-Apr-21 18:03:55

And another one.

Chestnut Thu 22-Apr-21 18:02:36

jacqrose

Grany All that you’ve outlined there is true but there is a small minority, most of them on GN it would seem, that just want to wave their flags and doff their caps and look through rose coloured spectacles. Sometimes I think it’s kinder to just let them carry on believing.

Here is a picture of the 'small minority' waving their flags.

???