A home owners nightmare

This is nothing short of a scandal. The people who should pay are those responsible for building, those who gave approval. The home owners should be compensated, not face ruin. I wonder why the chickens have not come home to roost?

Post this on the “anyone understand why Johnson is so far ahead “ thread !!

I agree with Daisymae, those responsible for building the damn things should pay. No question about that. The flat owners are facing ruin and bankruptcy through no fault of their own. Many of them are young people who have scrimped and saved to buy their first home. It must be heartbreaking and very very worrying.

The developers, large construction companies who make millions in profit are totally responsible for these properties. They signed off every bit of the construction. Their contractors will have copies of their decisions. The people who bought these properties will have guarantees covering 10 years against major faults. Can’t understand the decision, hope they continue to fight this.

I can't understand this decision unless it is to do with the Conservative party receiving large donations from the property developers, which is not out of the question.

The only real solution is for the Govt to pay for all cladding removal costs and any other necessary safety work and then take action against the relevant people. Any other solution will get mired down in expensive lengthy court proceedings. These owners need help now. It’s that simple and this government is refusing to do that because of who their friends are

A quick Google will reveal just how many millions property developers have donated to the Tory party. But hey Boris is just so cheerful.

MacCavity2

The developers, large construction companies who make millions in profit are totally responsible for these properties. They signed off every bit of the construction. Their contractors will have copies of their decisions. The people who bought these properties will have guarantees covering 10 years against major faults. Can’t understand the decision, hope they continue to fight this.

They should be chased to get on and do this.
If the State stepped in and did it ( through the public purse) how much would that cost the tax payers? Also it would be letting the companies off the hook.
Did not Parliament as a whole vote not to do this, surely?
What is needed is immense pressure on the builders responsible.Presumably all council properties will be done.

The buck must stop with the Developers who drew up the specifications for materials used in the construction.

lemongrove

MacCavity2

The developers, large construction companies who make millions in profit are totally responsible for these properties. They signed off every bit of the construction. Their contractors will have copies of their decisions. The people who bought these properties will have guarantees covering 10 years against major faults. Can’t understand the decision, hope they continue to fight this.

They should be chased to get on and do this.
If the State stepped in and did it ( through the public purse) how much would that cost the tax payers? Also it would be letting the companies off the hook.
Did not Parliament as a whole vote not to do this, surely?
What is needed is immense pressure on the builders responsible.Presumably all council properties will be done.

But lemon those responsible are denying culpability so court action is inevitable. No it wasn’t Parliament as a whole - it was the Conservatives. There is a real issue with social housing providers and the funding of this work.

It was voted on in Parliament by all MP’s though and by quite a wide margin in favour ( of not paying for blocks of flats under 18 metres.) For leaseholders that is. About 32 Conservative MP’s thought that it should be paid for so rebelled, but that still left a hefty amount number wise to vote against paying it.It’s what Parliament does, votes on things, from all sides of the House.

Court action is inevitable, although some firms will hopefully pay out before it comes to that. It’s a real problem for home owners, although I read in The Guardian that mortgage wise, the banks will ‘absorb’ any risks when lease holders buy and sell.

lemongrove

Court action is inevitable, although some firms will hopefully pay out before it comes to that. It’s a real problem for home owners, although I read in The Guardian that mortgage wise, the banks will ‘absorb’ any risks when lease holders buy and sell.

I’d like to see what that looks like - hasn’t the B of E warned of the dangers to the economy of this? We all remember how the last crash happened with sub prime mortgages.

lemongrove

It was voted on in Parliament by all MP’s though and by quite a wide margin in favour ( of not paying for blocks of flats under 18 metres.) For leaseholders that is. About 32 Conservative MP’s thought that it should be paid for so rebelled, but that still left a hefty amount number wise to vote against paying it.It’s what Parliament does, votes on things, from all sides of the House.

It was the majority of Tory MPs - stop trying to dress this up as anything but that. Lobby fodder in action.There were some brave Tories doing the right thing but no good deed will go unpunished.

This could be any of our adult children in this situation and it is scandalous. So many cannot just walk away because of career and professional implications of bankruptcy. I think the best way is for the government to pay, sort it out, and then pursue the guilty parties through the courts. Far more likely to have an impact if the government sues, instead of lots of individual cases which the claimants probably cannot afford to finance anyway. I won't mention that this is yet another broken promise from his nibs

I know personally of one couple affected by this. It will probably cost them £35, 000. They bought the flat on one of those part ownership schemes and only had the deposit because the father of the wife had died after a dreadful industrial accident and so she got some compensation which paid that. Now they don’t know what will happen. Poor things - stuck in limbo.

This is far from the end of the matter there are thousands of homes that are unsalable, building regulations allowed the cladding to be fitted, they are government regulations that were inadequate. No question the Government has to pay for replacement or compensation.

"In February Boris said his Government were determined that home owners should not have to pay unaffordable costs to remove cladding on their homes, unsafe through no fault of their own"

Surely no-one actually believed Boris????

Surely by now the whole country must be aware that our appalling PM is a proven liar.

He is hardly a man of his word. He is as former Tory Minister Dominic Grieve recently told us "!an integrity vaccuum"

lemongrove

It was voted on in Parliament by all MP’s though and by quite a wide margin in favour ( of not paying for blocks of flats under 18 metres.) For leaseholders that is. About 32 Conservative MP’s thought that it should be paid for so rebelled, but that still left a hefty amount number wise to vote against paying it.It’s what Parliament does, votes on things, from all sides of the House.

Labour supported the amendment. The govt won by 322 to 256 votes a majority of 66 votes. Add in the 32 Tory rebels and that suggests that apart from them, all the Tories voted for it and that Labour didn't.

No doubt there are some Tory supporters on here who have friends or family occupying some of these flats.

I'd send the bill to the builders ( cheapskates ) who must have known about this undesirable cladding and were no doubt well backed financially to do a good job, but in their wisdom had greedy thoughts and decided to use cheap materials thus making a few bob for themselves.

This fleecing is never ending wherever you turn.
Oh to be an audit officer !! I'd squeeze all these rogues until their pips squeaked.