France threatens to cut power to Jersey amid fishing row

I'm sorry I offended you Ellianne.

Maybe we can both point out to the posters who think it relevant to use the war in arguments about the French that this is entirely inappropriate.

Au coin des pinailleurs
Very much so Lucca. Seems like a sport on here!

It means nit-picking for those posters who want to know.

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Elliannethere have been several risible mentions of various wars on this thread *(not by you)*
Thank you suziewoozie for making that clear.
It might have been better if the war comment had not been associated with the quote from my thread.
For the record my father was Jewish.

Ellianne

^Je connais bien Bretagne.^
It's la Bretagne actually.

Au coin des pinailleurs......

Merci Lucca

Alegrias1

Ellianne you didn't, somebody else did.

Et oui, j'habitais Nantes et je travaillais comme lectrice a l'universite. Je connais bien Bretagne.

Your point?

Sorry, don't know how to do accents on my phone

The accents you just hold down the letter and accent options appear as if by magic. Voilà

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Ah well, all my arguments invalidated because I forgot the definite article. Oh, la honte....

Je connais bien Bretagne.
It's la Bretagne actually.

Above in reply to MaizieD at 00.24

Yes! We are a splendid, world beating nation, we are the 5th wealthiest nation in the world and we produce the vast majority of our own electricity, although at the moment about 6% is imported from France.
I imagine Norway would want to supply us with electricity as they are a leading exporter of it.
If they are offering better prices, terms and conditions to supply some of our electricity, I should imagine that would be the reason we are considering importing from them instead of France.
We would not be not crawling to Norway, as you so charmingly put it, we would be trading with them.
You know!
Like the world trades with each other.
And as for the bizarre comment about Norway’s fish! I have no idea why they won’t let us share their fish but why should they?

Ellianne there have been several risible mentions of various wars on this thread ( not by you) in addition to examples of a complete lack of understanding of Jersey’s position politically, constitutionally and in other ways. Generally, those who know and understand least have been on the side of Jersey and Johnson and those of us who understand most ( irrespective of any personal connections with France) realise that the situation is nowhere near as simple and clear cut as that and that many factors are in play.

Ellianne you didn't, somebody else did.

Et oui, j'habitais Nantes et je travaillais comme lectrice a l'universite. Je connais bien Bretagne.

Your point?

Sorry, don't know how to do accents on my phone

Ellianne

Alegrias where did I mention the war please?

I only post on this thread if I have confidence in what I am saying, hubris maybe, but not arrogance.
Have you lived and worked in France, (coastal fisherman Brittany territory), or chosen to marry into a French family by the way?

I think you've misinterpreted Alegrias' post.

Alegrias where did I mention the war please?

I only post on this thread if I have confidence in what I am saying, hubris maybe, but not arrogance.
Have you lived and worked in France, (coastal fisherman Brittany territory), or chosen to marry into a French family by the way?

Come off it! Surely you remember the Napoleonic Wars? Or maybe that upstart from "le continent" who arrived in 1066.

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I'm stuck in 1295 with the Auld Alliance. Scotland and France allied against......who was it again...? Last time I mentioned it we almost had another war so I'll just stop there....?

Ellianne

Hatred is a nasty word. I think the poster who is half French and I tried to explain that the French are fine once you get to know and understand them. They do have a different mentality and way of doing things, but their overriding characteristic is one of pride in their own country and its culture.
In contrast, the British are far better at laughing at themselves and moving quickly on.

The French are fine once you get to know and understand them

??? oh, the hubris!

Not a lot of evidence of the British laughing and moving on here. We're still talking about the war. ?

Alegrias1

This is all a wind up isn't it? Either that or I'm dreaming...

The war?!?

Come off it! Surely you remember the Napoleonic Wars? Or maybe that upstart from "le continent" who arrived in 1066.

Alegrias1

I just can't believe some of these posts. The French are not our enemies any more. How can anyone say they're lucky to get access to our waters or anything else. We don't live in the days of empire any more and Britannia no longer rules the waves. We're a wee island off the coast of Europe. Knowing the limits of our power and wanting to be friends with our neighbours is not doing the country down. Imagining that anyone is Europe is trying to make us fail is just deluded.

Unfortunately, I can believe the posts.

Saetana

Wow Suziewoozie - you really have an axe to grind here! Whilst I agree it is unlikely the French will cut off the power to Jersey, it smacks of the unpleasant posturing we have seen from the EU since Brexit. As a UK government spokesman said - there are mechanisms for resolving disputes in the treaty that both us and the EU have signed. Threats to cut off power, and to blockade the port of St Helier, are hardly in the spirit of the agreement. French fishermen knew what they had to do to get licences to fish in Jersey waters, its hardly the fault of Jersey that some failed to do so. French entitlement has to be seen to be believed - they are lucky we will still allow them to fish in our waters at all, given we are no longer part of the EU. People forget the French have been our enemies far more often than they have been our friends over the last few centuries.

The Channel Islands weren't/aren't in the EU. They haven't left anything.

dogsmother

It’s all making my head hurt !
People with nasty opinions on the Channel Islands that are actually incorrect.
Always been the same though, a little knowledge is dangerous.

Indeed! Same as an inability to read beyond headlines and three minute soundbites on the news.

MaizieD

All this hatred of the French is pathetic and utterly childish.

We've fought a good many other nations from time to time over the years. We're not full of hatred for them...

Ah! You're a bit behind the times here. Jingoism is the new PC.

Hatred is a nasty word. I think the poster who is half French and I tried to explain that the French are fine once you get to know and understand them. They do have a different mentality and way of doing things, but their overriding characteristic is one of pride in their own country and its culture.
In contrast, the British are far better at laughing at themselves and moving quickly on.

All this hatred of the French is pathetic and utterly childish.

We've fought a good many other nations from time to time over the years. We're not full of hatred for them...

When we have met French people overseas we make sure they know we are Australians because we have been told they don’t like the British. Sounds silly but unfortunately amongst many it seems to be true. Similar to Canada and the US perhaps. Or Sydneysiders and Melbournites. C’est vrai.

Buffybee

I think the threat by France to cut off the electricity to Jersey will backfire on them.
I’ve read that instead of looking to France for our future electricity needs, we are considering Norway to be perhaps a better option.

Why should Norway provide us with electricity?
Why can't we generate all our own electricity?

I thought we were a splendid, world beating nation able to stand proudly on our own two feet without being obliged to anyone. It's a bit pathetic to have to go crawling to Norway for our electricity, isn't it?
Especially as the mean b*ggers won't let us share their fish...