France threatens to cut power to Jersey amid fishing row

Being half French I can sympathise with the fishermen. The EU has made imports and exports very difficult after Brexit
for everyone. Businesses on both sides of the channel have been badly affected with increased charges and red tape.
I don't agree with the protest or the deliberate ramming of the boat. The owner who did that should have his license revoked and appear in court for criminal damage and endangering life. He should be barred from fishing industry for 10 years.
French culture is different in that people will stand up for their rights and react much faster than us imo
I wouldn't be surprised if they did cut the electric but it would be a disaster for hospital patients, businesses etc.
Hopefully a peaceful solution will be reached.

Sarnia

MayBee70

You can’t buy a house in Jersey though, can you until you’ve lived there for 10 years I believe.

If you were going to full-time work in Guernsey you would be issued with an Employment Permit. That would allow you to rent or buy a property from the Open Market only. House prices are very high in the Channel Islands. I am not aware of a length of residency being part of the criteria.

Jersey and Guernsey have different rules - the 5 year rule I’m sure still exists on Jersey and there are rules about renting. Healthcare is also a big issue - both these are huge barriers to just moving there compared with proving within the U.K.

MayBee70

You can’t buy a house in Jersey though, can you until you’ve lived there for 10 years I believe.

If you were going to full-time work in Guernsey you would be issued with an Employment Permit. That would allow you to rent or buy a property from the Open Market only. House prices are very high in the Channel Islands. I am not aware of a length of residency being part of the criteria.

You can’t buy a house in Jersey though, can you until you’ve lived there for 10 years I believe.

To all those people being nasty about the French..

Had Jolly Johnson threatened to cut off the French electricity supply everyone would have said that he didn't really mean it, it was just said in a moment of frustration... or, as a joke...

Just thought I'd throw that in...

suziewoozie

Sarnia

suziewoozie

Bluedaisy

Jersey, Guernsey and The Isle of Msn ARE a part of the British Isles for anyone’s information and if you don’t believe me look it up or google it!

The British Isles are not a sovereign/ political entity. The important issue is that the CI are not part of the U.K. You do know don’t you that whilst you could move to the Isle of Wight, Anglesey, Orkney tomorrow you couldn’t move to the CI without fitting strict criteria.How jolly British that is ?

The Channel Islands have had a two-tier system for purchasing homes since just after WW2 and the German Occupation. The Local Market applies to the majority of properties for sale and can only be purchased by local residents who have been born and brought up there or are in receipt of a Employment Permit because they have secured full-time employment in the Channel Islands. This course was taken to secure adequate protection for local people. The Open Market has around 7% of island homes available to British and EEA passport holders to purchase. Just look at the tourist destinations in this country. Homes bought up by people who are not local to that area as their second or holiday homes. The prices sky rocket so youngsters in those places cannot afford to buy somewhere to live there and have to move away. Hooray for the Channel Islands having the sense to operate a fair system.

Yes I know all that - my point was it’s not part of the U.K. and we cannot simply move there.They have their own rules - fine - let them provide their own gun ships then.

I wish local people were better protected in the U.K. re housing provision but that’s another story.

British people are free to go to the Channel Islands to live and work. I have no idea why you say they can't.

Copes283

Gosh this thread has surprised me somewhat! My gut reaction was that les Francais are sabre rattling because they have "got the hump" with us over Brexit. But if, as has been stated here, the CI are not part of the UK, why did we send the Royal Navy over? Sorry, please 'scuse my ignorance!

Yes I had thought that. Like many world leaders who are
going through a sticky patch, starting 'a war' was the best way to deflect attention off their own problems

Wallpapergate springs to mind here!

Sarnia

suziewoozie

Bluedaisy

Jersey, Guernsey and The Isle of Msn ARE a part of the British Isles for anyone’s information and if you don’t believe me look it up or google it!

The British Isles are not a sovereign/ political entity. The important issue is that the CI are not part of the U.K. You do know don’t you that whilst you could move to the Isle of Wight, Anglesey, Orkney tomorrow you couldn’t move to the CI without fitting strict criteria.How jolly British that is ?

The Channel Islands have had a two-tier system for purchasing homes since just after WW2 and the German Occupation. The Local Market applies to the majority of properties for sale and can only be purchased by local residents who have been born and brought up there or are in receipt of a Employment Permit because they have secured full-time employment in the Channel Islands. This course was taken to secure adequate protection for local people. The Open Market has around 7% of island homes available to British and EEA passport holders to purchase. Just look at the tourist destinations in this country. Homes bought up by people who are not local to that area as their second or holiday homes. The prices sky rocket so youngsters in those places cannot afford to buy somewhere to live there and have to move away. Hooray for the Channel Islands having the sense to operate a fair system.

Yes I know all that - my point was it’s not part of the U.K. and we cannot simply move there.They have their own rules - fine - let them provide their own gun ships then.

I wish local people were better protected in the U.K. re housing provision but that’s another story.

suziewoozie

Bluedaisy

Jersey, Guernsey and The Isle of Msn ARE a part of the British Isles for anyone’s information and if you don’t believe me look it up or google it!

The British Isles are not a sovereign/ political entity. The important issue is that the CI are not part of the U.K. You do know don’t you that whilst you could move to the Isle of Wight, Anglesey, Orkney tomorrow you couldn’t move to the CI without fitting strict criteria.How jolly British that is ?

The Channel Islands have had a two-tier system for purchasing homes since just after WW2 and the German Occupation. The Local Market applies to the majority of properties for sale and can only be purchased by local residents who have been born and brought up there or are in receipt of a Employment Permit because they have secured full-time employment in the Channel Islands. This course was taken to secure adequate protection for local people. The Open Market has around 7% of island homes available to British and EEA passport holders to purchase. Just look at the tourist destinations in this country. Homes bought up by people who are not local to that area as their second or holiday homes. The prices sky rocket so youngsters in those places cannot afford to buy somewhere to live there and have to move away. Hooray for the Channel Islands having the sense to operate a fair system.

Whatever the rights and wrongs between Jersey and France of new fishing regulations (and it seems to work both ways, the problems with fishing and landing catches between them) it was immensely crass, as another poster has already said , for the French Fisheries Minister to be waving the big stick of threatening the cutting off of power to the Island.That had nothing to do with fishing rights!
I do wonder if behind the scenes in Paris, she got a lot of horrified flak from Macron and others about it, what a numpty she is.

Maybe they just didn’t want to know and cared even less.

Mamie

annifrance do you really think the EU is giving the UK a hard time? It seems to me that the UK is just coming up against the reality of becoming a third country. It is pretty clear that some people in the UK government did not understand the detailed impact of the change in status.

They should know, they were told often enough.

It seems to me that the UK is just coming up against the reality of becoming a third country.

^^This

annifrance do you really think the EU is giving the UK a hard time? It seems to me that the UK is just coming up against the reality of becoming a third country. It is pretty clear that some people in the UK government did not understand the detailed impact of the change in status.

I think it's terribly funny and typically French. Good for them standing up for their rights as usual. I've never been bothered about French strikes etc, a nuisance yes. but whoever is protesting does is loud and strong, short and sharp. Problem solved, GJs excepted, that is now a pain, instead of the long drawn out strikes in GB which never seem to reach a conclusion anyway.

The EU did not want GB to leave so now they are giving it a hard time, can you blame them, hissy fits notwithstanding? Just feeling so angry about this Tory government, the only good thing they have done is roll out vaccines, and that is more due to the scientists. Vive La France and Napoleon had his place too. No-one is perfect.

varian

The Channel Islands are not part of the UK, and were never in the EU, so brexit agreements should not have affected them at all.

The deployment of gunboats gunboats was a great boost to the Tory election prospects. Britain ruling the waves gets quite a lot of votes but pointing the guns at the French is as good as you could ever get!

It is so good for the Vote Leave Government that it almost makes me wonder whether the Russians were behind the whole pantomime.

You’re wrong about the Brexit bit- read my earlier post. Their ambiguous position is all of the problem however.

The Channel Islands are not part of the UK, and were never in the EU, so brexit agreements should not have affected them at all.

The deployment of gunboats gunboats was a great boost to the Tory election prospects. Britain ruling the waves gets quite a lot of votes but pointing the guns at the French is as good as you could ever get!

It is so good for the Vote Leave Government that it almost makes me wonder whether the Russians were behind the whole pantomime.

There was a short item on the French lunchtime news yesterday about the fishing issue, but nothing today. Instead there was a long item about tomorrow, which is a day of remembrance for the dead of World War II with ceremonies in cities, towns and villages across France.
I don't quite understand this visceral hatred of the French, some people are clearly parroting what they read in the tabloids, but I still find it bizarre. The nuances of historical evidence certainly don't seem to get much attention.
There is no equivalent obsession about the British discernible here and people are really not at all interested in Brexit any more.

Bluedaisy

Jersey, Guernsey and The Isle of Msn ARE a part of the British Isles for anyone’s information and if you don’t believe me look it up or google it!

The British Isles are not a sovereign/ political entity. The important issue is that the CI are not part of the U.K. You do know don’t you that whilst you could move to the Isle of Wight, Anglesey, Orkney tomorrow you couldn’t move to the CI without fitting strict criteria.How jolly British that is ?

Jersey, Guernsey and The Isle of Msn ARE a part of the British Isles for anyone’s information and if you don’t believe me look it up or google it!

And people thought it was an exaggeration to claim that Brexit could lead to war... isn’t that why the EU was set up, after WW2? Free trade so that a war wouldn’t happen again? It didn’t take long did it?

BlueRuby

France are showing their true colours.

... bit like the UK.

BlueRuby

France are showing their true colours.

What true colours are those then?

France are showing their true colours.

Shortlegs

Smacks of terrorism......

For goodness sake ????????