France threatens to cut power to Jersey amid fishing row

Exactly suziewoozie. As my U3A students say to me "we will complain about him and then we will vote for him again". I think he could be vulnerable to a good moderate candidate, but no clear contestant yet. As for the French being impressed by Brexit - um I don't think so.

Mamie

Latest Ipsos opinion poll has Macron beating Le Pen by 57% to 43%. I don't think supporters of the far right should get too excited yet.

The French voting system for President allows anyway for tactical voting. This has stopped the far right so far from getting the Presidency even though it’s meant the left have had to hold their noses whilst voting

Latest Ipsos opinion poll has Macron beating Le Pen by 57% to 43%. I don't think supporters of the far right should get too excited yet.

An interesting post on Marine’s background Ellianne.

Support for the EU is not universal across all European countries, and it’s perfectly obvious that they will all be watching our progress with interest.

Any opposition party which taps into this disenchantment of the EU by promising an in/out referendum if elected could cause an upset to the old order.

JenniferEccles

I didn’t say I support her. I was just using her as an example of what could happen in upcoming elections.
Although it’s still quite early days since we left, France along with other European countries will have seen in us just what can be achieved outside the lumbering bureaucracy of the EU.

Threatening to cut off tiny Jersey’s electricity will not have gone unnoticed.

You didn’t make that clear unfortunately. I doubt you understand the grievances with Jersey ( which is not part of the UK or EU and is a tax haven which facilitates the lessening of our tax revenue) . Maybe you think it’s fine for French fishermen to lose their livelihoods and they should just suck it up? Jersey are asking for it and will back off once BJ tells them to - when polls close tonight ?

I didn’t say I support her. I was just using her as an example of what could happen in upcoming elections.
Although it’s still quite early days since we left, France along with other European countries will have seen in us just what can be achieved outside the lumbering bureaucracy of the EU.

Threatening to cut off tiny Jersey’s electricity will not have gone unnoticed.

Ellianne

References to Marine Le Pen are important in this context. Her father who founded the FN was from Brittany, La Trinité sur mer. Fishing is of course one of Brittany's biggest employers and it is no surprise the Le Penn is targeting this sector for votes. This afternoon she is in her homeland visiting an oyster yard. She knows the territory and the struggles in this field better than sleek Macron. Her roots are here and she will have ample opportunity to make her voice heard on the subject here. She has some way to go to convince Bretons living in the big towns but on the coast and inland, whether we like the thought or not, we have to acknowledge she is gaining support.

.....and do you “like” ?

Sarnia

I was born and brought up in Guernsey. Fishing has always been a mainstay in the Channel Islands. Many islanders depend on fishing for their livelihood. As per usual what Boris says is not what Boris does and the assurances he gave the UK and Channel Islands fishermen pre-Brexit deal were not carried through. Hence where we are today.

I believe that Guernsey is not the problem here but that Jersey are being deliberately provocative. What amazing timing ??

I was born and brought up in Guernsey. Fishing has always been a mainstay in the Channel Islands. Many islanders depend on fishing for their livelihood. As per usual what Boris says is not what Boris does and the assurances he gave the UK and Channel Islands fishermen pre-Brexit deal were not carried through. Hence where we are today.

References to Marine Le Pen are important in this context. Her father who founded the FN was from Brittany, La Trinité sur mer. Fishing is of course one of Brittany's biggest employers and it is no surprise the Le Penn is targeting this sector for votes. This afternoon she is in her homeland visiting an oyster yard. She knows the territory and the struggles in this field better than sleek Macron. Her roots are here and she will have ample opportunity to make her voice heard on the subject here. She has some way to go to convince Bretons living in the big towns but on the coast and inland, whether we like the thought or not, we have to acknowledge she is gaining support.

Our parents were so much wiser than us in understanding the need for working together to keep peace

Spot on!

Thanks, mamie. A very interesting article.

JenniferEccles

Oh how I would love to see the awful posturing Macron severely trounced in the elections next year.
Marine Le Pen possibly ?

Have you any idea what you are saying here? That you support her and what she stands for Really ? Really?

Lucca

Vive la France et son électricité.....

Jennifer Eccles ...marine Le Pen ??? Please say you are joking.

I fear not - but I am relieved that it is only a very very tiny minority with such extreme views.

rosie1959

Apparently the French ship Athos is on its way towards the channel isles

Swiftly followed by porthos and aramis?

rosie1959

Apparently the French ship Athos is on its way towards the channel isles

what an utter debacle.

How long has it taken us to fall out with France since Brexit? Barely a year.

Our parents were so much wiser than us in understanding the need for working together to keep peace.

Vive la France et son électricité.....

Jennifer Eccles ...marine Le Pen ??? Please say you are joking.

Apparently the French ship Athos is on its way towards the channel isles

I agree with you that the fishing industry is somewhat chaotic.

Monsieur Barnier negotiated for the EU, surely the French Fishermen should take it up with him?

I do think it was a mistake for the French Minister responsible for Fishing to threaten Jersey regarding turning off the electricity supply.

Thanks Mamie. I wondered why it was only Jersey and not Guernsey.

GrannyGravy13

I suppose the hundred plus French fishing boats that are forming a blockade off of Jersey are just posturing. ? (As seen on early morning news)

PM was correct to send two Navy vessels to protect/support the CI.

This is the fishermen doing it, not the government and it’s not cutting off the electricity the threat of which is the posturing. You know the whole fishing issue is a catastrophe.

Whitewavemark2

No fisherman wins with the Brexit deal everyone of them is unhappy.

Most of the industry were unhappy way before Brexit.

No fisherman wins with the Brexit deal everyone of them is unhappy.

Mamie

This is an interesting and measured article about the background to the dispute.
www.thelocal.fr/20210505/analysis-is-france-really-about-to-cut-off-electricity-to-the-tiny-island-of-jersey-over-fish/

This is a short article. Please read it. Very interesting.

Thanks Mamie

French fishermen have for generations fished in this area, it isn’t new, it’s the poor Brexit deal by U.K. that has caused these fishing gripes.,