Anyone understand why Johnson is so far ahead in the polls? ( 2)

Dinahmo did you know that France has a smaller population than the UK, despite being 2.6 times larger in size? We are a tiny overpopulated country, so the potential for the virus spreading is therefore greater.

lemongrove
The number of deaths in France is still well below that in the UK - at the last count just over 107,000.

I don't understand how you can state that that the Conservatives have managed things so well in the UK, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

PippaZ

Chestnut

Casdon

Who’s the enemy Chestnut?

The many people who try and destroy him. I would have thought that was obvious.

So the citizens of the UK who don't agree with you and Johnson are now to be "the enemy" -

5. Create and defeat a common enemy.*

*7 Steps to Becoming a Dictator

1/ I didn't say people who 'don't agree with him', I said those who try and destroy him, very different.
2/ I didn't say I agreed with him. I was quoting why people support him. I never said that included me.

Hi Maizie.

Kapitan

Boris is ahead in the polls and the ballot box because he gets the job done. Communism and it's timid sister 'socialism' are dead and buried in England.

I expect that's why 11 of the 13 newly elected Metroplitan Mayors are Labour...

Boris is ahead in the polls and the ballot box because he gets the job done. Communism and it's timid sister 'socialism' are dead and buried in England.

They shouldn’t have had to find out what the NHS needed in the event of a pandemic. There was always going to be a pandemic one day and plans were in place for one but the government let important PPE etc go out of date. The Nightingale hospitals were a waste of time and money and no one seemed to realise that there weren’t enough experienced nurses to man them anyway, made worse by less and less money going into the NHS. PPE contracts were handed out to mates. Food supplies weren’t affected which is good. And Johnson is now refusing to be pushed into opening up sooner than planned even though the parliamentary covid group ( the one that morphed from the ERG) are constantly pressurising him to do so. I’ll give him credit for that.

Chestnut

Casdon

Who’s the enemy Chestnut?

The many people who try and destroy him. I would have thought that was obvious.

So the citizens of the UK who don't agree with you and Johnson are now to be "the enemy" -

5. Create and defeat a common enemy.*

*7 Steps to Becoming a Dictator

I said overall which encompasses many things.The fast building of the Nightingale hospitals in case they were needed,
Keeping workers in paid jobs via furlough, ordering the vaccines early and paying big sums into the Astra Z research and vaccine making, finding out what the NHS needed to cope.
PPE was a problem early on, but by then other countries who had vast numbers of Covid patients had ordered so much it was hard to get hold of.No doubt that will be gone into in an investigation, having an early prepared-ness for a pandemic.
We weren’t the only country struggling to get enough PPE in any case.
Our vaccine orders/ roll out has been fantastic, and we are in the happy position of hardly any patients dying, week on week, whereas France and Germany ( often cited as paragons)
Have had over 250 deaths each this week.
So yes, the government has done quite a lot well!

They have not been managed well. The vaccination programme has been managed well. What else has been managed well?

Who are you blaming for the number of deaths due to Covid in all the other countries in Europe I wonder MaizieD?
The countries which still have hundreds of deaths happening every week, France and Germany to mention only two.
But no! What a surprise, only Johnson gets any blame ( any Conservative PM would be blamed I expect).Frankly...it’s ludicrous, things have been managed very well overall in the UK which is why the Conservatives are doing so well in the eyes of voters.

How many deaths have resulted from Johnson's endearing 'muddling through' style? 150,000+ is it?

I'm sure that the friends and relatives of those who died unnecessarily because of his 'muddling through' and cavalier attitude' (I can't believe that a responsible adult actually finds those things an asset in a leader; it astounds me just to write it) perfectly understand that it's just his style and that if it causes any damage, well, he's so lovely we can all forgive him...

Strong = thick skinned in Johnson’s case. imo

Chestnut strong doesn’t equal good in leadership terms, I think most people want honesty and integrity as well. That’s certainly what the US voted for last time.

Casdon

Who’s the enemy Chestnut?

The many people who try and destroy him. I would have thought that was obvious.

Who’s the enemy Chestnut?

MayBee70

Yes, people can relate to someone who lies and goes from one personal disaster to another. He is a cult figure is he not.

As I said on another thread, I don't think people seem to care about his failings. They like him and his cavalier attitude because he somehow seems to muddle through, get things done and keeps going. Whatever you think of him, he has proved to be a strong leader who can survive the slings and arrows of the enemy.

Yes, people can relate to someone who lies and goes from one personal disaster to another. He is a cult figure is he not.

Just one of his endearing qualities that the public seem to admire so much MayBee.

Reassuring to know that he endears himself to the electorate because of his chaotic lifestyle. Heaven forbid that the country should be run by someone efficient and organised. Anyway, £500 is too small an amount to register on his radar. Just money in his back pocket.

It because of his chaotic lifestyle.

£535.00 to be exact, probably a parking fine that got mislaid, the add-ons soon accumulate?

The PM can't even pay small debts. A CCJ was given against him last October and delivered to Downing Street. For between £500 and £600 I think. If the debt isn't paid the bailiffs will come and take away goods to the value.

Someone's been doing a trawl of the records.

MayBee70

And are they planning to build on flood plains as I thought ?

The EA always puts in an objection to plans to build on flood plans and it is always rejected.

The latest one near us is a housing estate and IKEA. Which is being built on the coastal plan. The issue here is that there is massive run off from the South Downs onto what is essentially a clay pan. It has flooded every single winter regardless of the amount of rain. They are apparently digging trenches for drainage. Sounds a bit Harry Tate to my mind.

And are they planning to build on flood plains as I thought ?

Nothing planning about it. they have been doing it knowingly for years under governments of all complexions

Flood plains are a lost cause.The threat we are now under is building in the Green Belt. More than 7,000 houses are planned for the Oxford Green Belt. Green Belts used to be protected, now they are up for grabs.