I do wonder- is this what the Brexiters wanted?

Flying to Malaga to spend time in your second home, no matter how tiny, is not the small, simple life confused

Its very nice, I don't grudge it to you, but if you think that's the small simple life then there is something deeply wrong with society.

Ah, but it is for us! We had a semi detached house, sold it and bought 2 small apartments. Technically anybody who owns a house (most on here I think) could do the same.

And it is a simple life. Less cleaning, small utility bills, no garden or fence panels, guttering to maintain. It’s so simple to live our way of life you wouldn’t beli very it Alegrias!

MaizieD

^So they were either totally unprepared and didn't understand the implications- or totally dishonest and plain liars. Which is it?^

I'd say it was both, Kali2

I'd say so too. But would be nice to have the pov of the person who wrote 'go Frostie' (and yes, I think he should 'go').

You couldn’t be more wrong. I have a daughter from mainland Europe and a GD with a mainland European passport.

I am fully aware of the inconveniences occurring at the moment.

Gret news re The Tunnel bail out. You do realise, of course, that if France puts up the money, they will have control of access, etc, for imports and exports, and more.

GrannyGravy13

How people decide to spend their retirement is entirely up to them and them alone.

I agree, but due to the Brexit vote, that decision has been taken away from many people. Thanks for your understanding and sympathy though. There's an awful lot of 'I'm Alright Jack' going on here today.

GrannyGravy13

How people decide to spend their retirement is entirely up to them and them alone.

What a daft thing to write- how people spend their retirement depends on the conditions that will make it possible or not.

Urmstongran

^Like for all other nonEU nationals wishing to visit Spain and NOT lodging in paid holiday accommodation, but with friends or family instead, the host in Spain must apply for a ????? ?? ????????ó? for each person involved^

As I say, we won’t be hosting!

Most people visit Spain and lodge in paid holiday accommodation. So the above won’t affect them either. It’s all about large places big enough to put family/friends up for their stay.

No room at our inn! ?

I don't think I wrote that this was about you !!!

But in response to those who said they would avoid France on their way to Spain.

How people decide to spend their retirement is entirely up to them and them alone.

Urmstongran

Thank you for all that information regarding Spain Kali. However, none of it will affect us as our tiny apartment is too small to host family Or friends!

We plan to do our usual in 6 weeks. Go to the airport, fly to Malaga then catch a train, six stops along. Can’t wait. The simple, small life has its benefits!
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I've been trying to think of a way of putting this that isn't rude...but I can't think of one. So, apologies in first.

Flying to Malaga to spend time in your second home, no matter how tiny, is not the small, simple life

Its very nice, I don't grudge it to you, but if you think that's the small simple life then there is something deeply wrong with society.

And the day just got better!
BREAKING NEWS:

Emmanuel Macron has bowed to Boris Johnson by stumping up French taxpayer cash to lead a bailout for Eurostar.

The French government and Eurostar’s other shareholders will stump up £200m.

Britain will not pay a penny and will not provide any loan guarantees, The Telegraph can reveal.

The Channel Tunnel rail operator was taken to the brink of collapse earlier this year after passenger numbers fell 95pc as a result of coronavirus travel restrictions.

French ministers and Eurostar bosses appealed for the UK Government to step in and inject tens of millions of pounds into the business amid concerns it was running out of cash.

Grant Shapps, the Transport Secretary, resisted the demands from Paris, insisting that Eurostar was “not our company to rescue”.

Like for all other nonEU nationals wishing to visit Spain and NOT lodging in paid holiday accommodation, but with friends or family instead, the host in Spain must apply for a ????? ?? ????????ó? for each person involved

As I say, we won’t be hosting!

Most people visit Spain and lodge in paid holiday accommodation. So the above won’t affect them either. It’s all about large places big enough to put family/friends up for their stay.

No room at our inn! ?

Thank you for all that information regarding Spain Kali. However, none of it will affect us as our tiny apartment is too small to host family Or friends!

We plan to do our usual in 6 weeks. Go to the airport, fly to Malaga then catch a train, six stops along. Can’t wait. The simple, small life has its benefits!
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Ha ha vegansrock, why not?

No doubt all these travel requirements for Brits will be blamed on the EU.....

Kali2

Urmstongran

Northern Ireland Protocol 'dead in the water', senior ally of Boris Johnson says.

Lord Frost, the Prime Minister’s Brexit negotiator, has privately set a July 12 target date to end the chaos of cross-border checks.
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Go ‘Frostie’!

You are aware that it was Johnson and Frost that negotiated the Deal and agreed to the conditions required by the NI protocol.

So they were either totally unprepared and didn't understand the implications- or totally dishonest and plain liars. Which is it?

Perhaps we could remind Ug of this tweet by the snowman in December last year:

David Frost
@DavidGHFrost
· Dec 24, 2020
I'm very pleased and proud to have led a great UK team to secure today's excellent deal with the EU.

Both sides worked tirelessly day after day in challenging conditions to get the biggest & broadest trade deal in the world, in record time.

Thank you all who made it happen.

'Excellent deal'

Some people see a solution and look fo a problem?

Others see a problem and find a solution?

Does it count as a point if I own up to it first? (11:51)

I really don't understand these rules.....

Smileless2012

With reference to your post @ 11.33 Maizie you should look at Alegrias' post @ 11.10 in which she is responding directly to Peasblossom and posted "get a grip".

Oh, well done, smileless. That's a point to you...

So they were either totally unprepared and didn't understand the implications- or totally dishonest and plain liars. Which is it?

I'd say it was both, Kali2

With reference to your post @ 11.33 Maizie you should look at Alegrias' post @ 11.10 in which she is responding directly to Peasblossom and posted "get a grip".

Urmstongran

Northern Ireland Protocol 'dead in the water', senior ally of Boris Johnson says.

Lord Frost, the Prime Minister’s Brexit negotiator, has privately set a July 12 target date to end the chaos of cross-border checks.
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Go ‘Frostie’!

You are aware that it was Johnson and Frost that negotiated the Deal and agreed to the conditions required by the NI protocol.

So they were either totally unprepared and didn't understand the implications- or totally dishonest and plain liars. Which is it?

Urmstongran

Oh Kali2 change the record please. You’ve been tub thumping for years! Usually on behalf of others just ‘showing empathy’. Hmm. Stirring things up more like that don’t even affect you!

What are you on about. Feeling unwell?

As for avoiding France due to new regs, to go to Spain, well not sure.

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Confirmed by the ??????? ?? ?????????í? ? ????????? in Granada this morning, and by Antequera National Police as well, with thanks to the helpful lady there.
Like for all other nonEU nationals wishing to visit Spain and NOT lodging in paid holiday accommodation, but with friends or family instead, the host in Spain must apply for a ????? ?? ????????ó? for each person involved. ???: ???? ????? ????????? in Spain can apply for this Carta for the family or friends they wish to receive in their own (or rented) home or a second home they own here, ???-???????? ???? ?????? ??? ???. The latter can only receive nonEU guests in their holiday home if the property is listed as a holiday rental with the Registro de Turismo and they charge for their stay and provide the guests with a tourist rental contract and confirmation of booking. For those who rent their home, please check that the rental contract doesn’t contain a clause that prohibits guests from lodging with you, or only allows so for very limited time in case they intend to stay for several weeks e.g.
The procedure is a ???-???? one. You need to apply for the Carta de Invitación with the National Police in your area, with a cita previa sede.administracionespublicas.gob.es/icpco/index
fill out this form for each guest www.interior.gob.es/.../Solicitud+de+Carta.../
And Modelo 790-12 to pay the administrative fee. Tick ‘solicitud carta de invitación’. The amount of 74,31 euros will appear. sede.policia.gob.es/Tasa790_012/ImpresoRellenar
?????????? ????????? ?? ?????:
✼ Title deeds or rental contract for the property where the guests will be lodging
✻ Padrón certificate not older than 3 months
✼ TIE or green EU residency certificate and passport plus copies
✼ Copies of the passports of the guests that will travel from the UK to Spain to stay with you
There is no fixed window to process your application, it depends on how busy they are, but generally no more than 20 days. Once you have been notified that your application has been resolved favourably, you can pick up the the Carta(s) de Invitación. You’ll need a ?????? ???? ???-??, tick ‘Expedición de Carta de Invitación’. No amount will appear, you need to print the form and put in the amount of 6,43 euros times number of guests. So for a family of five, 5 x 6,43 = 32,15. Note that these amounts vary each time the State General Budget for the following year is approved and published.
Once you have the Carta(s), you need to send them to the UK so that the guest can bring the originals with them when they travel to Spain.
It will no doubt take a bit of getting used to, but this has been in place for all nonEU nationals for many years. Although the GOV UK website doesn’t mention anything in their ‘travel to Spain’ section, the Carta de Invitación is in fact in place for UK Nationals when travelling to the EU for tourist purposes, when not staying in paid holiday accommodation. As said at the beginning of this article, confirmed by official sources.

Northern Ireland Protocol 'dead in the water', senior ally of Boris Johnson says.

Lord Frost, the Prime Minister’s Brexit negotiator, has privately set a July 12 target date to end the chaos of cross-border checks.
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Go ‘Frostie’!

Callistemon

I can recommend the Herefordshire asparagus!

We’ve driven there quite often. Delicious (OH not keen so all the more for me!)

But I can't do without my French wine for lunch!