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Protest section 4 Police Bill.

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Sago Fri 11-Jun-21 07:27:54

In our City we have dedicated sites and land set aside for a proposed site, yet caravans turn up on industrial estates, playing fields and recently a supermarket car park.
The electricity was illegally tapped in to and because of the young children and dogs wandering around the company had to close the store as parking was not safe.

I really feel your community need to educate your own people.

On a visit to Ireland recently we drove through Rathkeel it was interesting to see the lengths the travellers had gone to to protect their own village and properties.

romaroot Thu 10-Jun-21 22:56:00

Yes, this is a fair comment, but in context the parents will be on a temporary site and have to move.
It makes continuation almost impossible.
A lot of the problems would be helped if past present and no doubt future governments would stop seeing us as a problem and more of a solution.
Especially ito the housing crisis. None of us want to live in council houses away from our extended family, it's not our culture. Building enough sites for travellers would ease the pressure, many would move out, hence making more available houses for the rest of society who also need homes.

Sago Thu 10-Jun-21 21:26:50

romaroot Is it not fair to say that access to continuing health are and education is difficult for a community that moves around the country?

I volunteered at a primary school that had a number of traveller children that arrived for a few weeks in the winter.
We worked in conjunction with the various authorities to ensure the children and parents had access to health care and family support.

It’s difficult when you live a settled life to understand travelling communities and unfortunately the reputation of so many deters most people from wanting to get to know them.

romaroot Thu 10-Jun-21 19:58:10

Equality and human rights to be upheld.
Our culture, traditions and heritage to be understood.
Better outcomes for our children, improved access to healthcare.
This would be a start.
Until the recent census, I doubt anyone knew that Irish travellers and Romany travellers were two individual races in their own right.
I pray for the racism and inequalities to stop. thanks

Missfoodlove Thu 10-Jun-21 19:43:34

romaroot What is it that you would like?

romaroot Thu 10-Jun-21 17:29:02

We are obeying the laws of the land currently. It's the change of law we object to. Which would criminalise our way of life and culture.
It is ethnically cleansing without the guns, and has been happening in some form for the past 600 years since we arrived here.
Bit by bit our human rights taken away from us, and not enough sites for us all.
Racism and hatred from society and governments who see us as winning elections for them.

If you could spare the time to share on social media or even just to educate yourself about who we are and of course how cleanliness is next to Godliness to us.

Sago that is absolutely disgusting, I'm so sorry your dd went through this.
I say that the law should take these people in hand, but you don't crack a nut by using a hammer.

lemongrove Thu 10-Jun-21 15:32:01

Nonsense to say ‘ethically cleanse’ ( if you really know what that phrase means) Romaroot.
If they obeyed the laws of the land like everybody else did then there wouldn’t be problems, or need for these bills.

Sago Thu 10-Jun-21 15:25:56

Hi romaroot, I think there needs to be some serious “myth busting” re travellers and I do appreciate it is usually the minority that give travellers a bad name.

However I think the people who turn up on private/community land and create fear, mess and intimidate should be taken in hand.
They fit the stereotype and are almost untouchable.

When my daughter had her oil tank emptied by travellers leaving her in a freezing house with a toddler and £450 down the police said there was nothing they could do, they were aware of who it was but wouldn’t enter the travellers site because of the unrest it would cause.

This is why people become intolerant.

So perhaps these are the people you should be speaking to.

NotSpaghetti Thu 10-Jun-21 14:07:42

Oh! I see what's happening here.
The formula 1 info is overshadowing the video at the top!

anyone interested needs to see the TOP video on the link

NotSpaghetti Thu 10-Jun-21 14:05:15

I'm not sure the first link is right?
Maybe you could ask admin to change it.

Bills like this slip through unnoticed by the majority. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Blossoming Thu 10-Jun-21 13:23:56

The few who behave badly get more publicity, unfortunately.

romaroot Thu 10-Jun-21 13:18:45

I know.
I think some people just see those that leave a mess and think this is what we are all like.
But if they knew our culture they'd know it's the complete opposite.
I do think they should be punished, but the majority of us are law abiding citizens, who work and pay tax and other bills, even council tax when we are on sites.

Blossoming Thu 10-Jun-21 13:10:43

Thank you for the links, there are some very dangerous implications in that bill.

romaroot Thu 10-Jun-21 12:55:12

Here are some links, from various charities and organisations.
Please read and if you can help to keep our culture from becoming criminalised it would be very much appreciated.
Even just sharing on social media can help enormously.

friendsoftheearth.uk/system-change/out-site-britains-nomadic-people

www.crowdfunder.co.uk/drive-to-survive/comments#start

www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/0bfb5304-9f30-4c99-aa26-87c23cf4d9b6

Many thanks, and if you want to comment hopefully it will stay in trending for a while.

romaroot Wed 09-Jun-21 16:23:44

Hello, not sure if this is the right place I looked for activism.

The new Police Bill is set to ethnically cleanse two races in Britain.
Please help to ensure this doesn't happen by helping if you can.
Even if it is just donating horse feed or shoes. Or better still making a placard and joining us in October.
Thank you.

www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Drive+to+survive+campaign+

Website link on film.