Is this a joke, or something?

I will be giving this song…..nil points. ?

PippaZ Thank you. Clarification understood. Phew. ?.

lemongrove

PippaZ

lemongrove

I have no problem with any government encouraging a song with a lovely message and written by schoolchildren to be sung on a sort of festival day once a year.

But you wouldn't, would you Lemongrove.

No I wouldn’t, and I dare say, neither would millions of others either.

If you watch the youtube "Tomorrow belongs to me" you will see that only one person doesn't stand up and join in. The others turned out not to be on the side of the angels if I remember rightly. This should remind us all that large numbers and even majorities are not always right.

even though we are so insignificant that Boris forgot to wish us good luck in the Euros when he did so to England and Scotland.

Really?
So glad I missed him when he did his elbow bumping at the vaccination centre.

Always forgotten but at least we have the best National Anthem, the best singers, the best flag and ? the best team.

I’ve read the whole thread lemongrove, and the news coverage, I’m not a poster who jumps in without the full picture. It’s more shocking than I thought if as you suggest the children were given One Britain, One Nation as the title to work to - surely not?
As Calistemon also suggested, it’s highly unlikely any children in Wales will bother, they will be singing Calon Lan on Friday instead, supporting our nation in the football, even though we are so insignificant that Boris forgot to wish us good luck in the Euros when he did so to England and Scotland.

PippaZ

I shall remember not to read the posts when people answer someone else. They are not meant as part of the ongoing conversation. I did not understand that to be the case but you have now enlightened me.

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Happy to oblige!

Kalu

No misunderstanding! Yes, of course GB is a geographical definition of one British island, however, the collective definition within this island is made up of 3 nations, not one. Ergo, my suggesting UK would encompass NI as more appropriate, to include all four nations.

Happy to help with the FNOUK. ?

I'm sorry Kalu. We were agreeing but (I say while being pedantic myself) the point I was trying to clarify, which agrees with yours, is that the UK is the only political union. Ergo the far right (and even the right) have once more made clear its intentions towards NI. Whew

Actually I was thinking about the US. They don't sing the national anthem or any other song, but they do say the Pledge of Allegiance.

I don't think we've got one of them, do we?

Anyway, its not compulsory.

Can we get the kids to sing Bonnie Bunch o' Roses? It includes the line England, Ireland, Scotland, their unity will ne'er be broke (Sorry Wales). And it has the advantage of being anti-French! (yes, that's sarcasm)

Good job you don’t live in the US then purplepixie where the school children sing and chant every morning. They don’t seem to think it makes them Hitler Youth ( and of course it doesn’t.)

Casdon read the post above by Callistemon it was an event set up by Kash Singh a former policeman in Bradford.
The children were no doubt given the title of the event, One Britain, One Nation and asked to write the words of a song for it.
Am amazed at all the negative views by some for what should be a rather nice song and event once a year to celebrate our nations and the idea of national pride and harmony for all.

How disgusting! It sounds like the Hitler Youth. Sorry, but I never want to hear it again and to get children to sing that! Well it beggars belief!

Does anybody believe that of their own volition schoolchildren would come up with a slogan One Britain One Nation! I don’t.

I agree that was a mistake Lucca somebody didn’t do their homework.

PippaZ

lemongrove

I have no problem with any government encouraging a song with a lovely message and written by schoolchildren to be sung on a sort of festival day once a year.

But you wouldn't, would you Lemongrove.

No I wouldn’t, and I dare say, neither would millions of others either.

No misunderstanding! Yes, of course GB is a geographical definition of one British island, however, the collective definition within this island is made up of 3 nations, not one. Ergo, my suggesting UK would encompass NI as more appropriate, to include all four nations.

Happy to help with the FNOUK. ?

lemongrove

I have no problem with any government encouraging a song with a lovely message and written by schoolchildren to be sung on a sort of festival day once a year.

But you wouldn't, would you Lemongrove.

lemongrove

I have no problem with any government encouraging a song with a lovely message and written by schoolchildren to be sung on a sort of festival day once a year.

But to choose a day wine Scottish schools are
“Out” ???

I shall remember not to read the posts when people answer someone else. They are not meant as part of the ongoing conversation. I did not understand that to be the case but you have now enlightened me.

Callistemon

I was answering Kalu who was feeling pedantic today, as was I. PippaZ

Is that not allowed?

I was answering Kalu, PippaZ

I have no problem with any government encouraging a song with a lovely message and written by schoolchildren to be sung on a sort of festival day once a year.

Callistemon [Wed 23-Jun-21 12:38:26]

I couldn't understand what you were trying to show Callistemon? It had already been said - although you have every right to repeat it - and you seemed to have ignored what comprises the political definition which seems to me, although maybe not to you, to be the point in question. I did not, at any point, say you are not allowed to repeat what has already been said. Why would I? I was just trying to work out your reasoning in relation to the OP - and couldn't.

I think the sentiments were fine and the intentions good ones, but it's a pity the politicians have appropriated it, lemongrove

I was answering Kalu who was feeling pedantic today, as was I. PippaZ

Is that not allowed?

Callistemon

It's not fake news:

One Britain One Nation is an event set up by Kash Singh, a former police officer from Bradford. It lists its aim as being "to create, a strong, fair, harmonious and a proud British Nation, celebrating patriotism and respect for all our people".

"OBON day" is scheduled for Friday, June 25, and the campaign wants children to sing the OBON day 2021 anthem written by children at St John’s CE Primary School, Bradford.

The headline in Wales online sounds rather aghast
^The UK government wants Welsh children to sing 'We are Britain' to celebrate ‘One Britain One Nation Day’^

Thanks Callistemon saves me from looking it up.
Sounds fair enough to me, a good idea on Mr Singh’s part and am sure the children enjoyed writing it.Bradford is a very diverse ( ethnically) city and the words are affirmative, optimistic and rather nice. There is no law to compel any school to sing it, but the ones that do want to participate on OBON day will do so. Children usually enjoy singing in any case.It isn’t as if they will have to sing it every morning of the school year.All the comparisons to Nazi Germany and North Korea are totally ridiculous....but par for the course on forums.

I am not sure how that differs from what I said other than by adding in The British Isles which is also a geographical definition Callistemon [Wed 23-Jun-21 12:19:39].

The point is that singing "We are one Britain" or going on at length about Great British this, that and the other doesn't make sense. There is no political agreement for "Great Britain" to act as one; it comprises, geographically, three separate countries. The only time those countries come together politically is as the United Kingdom but that doesn't suit Mr Johnson - presumably, it's not catchy enough - so let's not worry about agreements between countries we will use it anyway - even if it's politically incomprehensible.