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I have just about had enough of these contradictory covid19 regulations.

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GillT57 Wed 23-Jun-21 13:45:40

Ok, so I am a law abiding person, I stayed at home, had my shopping delivered, no visitors, masks, hand washing, social distancing, both vaccinations etc., But, now I sit and watch thousands of football fans and Royal Ascot to name just two, at the same time as some bleating windbag of a politician is explaining why we shouldn't dance at a wedding ( other then the bride and groom), can only have limited guests in the church.....I am absolutely sick to the back teeth of the hypocrisy of it. I am going to a wedding in a mid July and the parents ( good friends) are worried sick about managing it all, how many can go into the Church, I told them to just stick a couple of horses in the gardens and we can say it is a race meet ( we will be wearing frocks and hats!), or get a football game going with some of the guests and we can be the spectators? Am I the only one irritated beyond measure?

Callistemon Thu 24-Jun-21 10:38:17

nanna8 perhaps Australians have gained a reputation for compliance because the Covid rules were more clear and decisive.
www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/australian-style-quarantine-not-easy-coronavirus-fix-uk

Added to that, you have a much smaller population spread over a huge area a distance away from most other countries. However, I could sense annoyance over there when some were seen to be allowed to break the rules, eg sports people, film stars etc.

I think most British people have been compliant of the rules and have been keen to get vaccinated so that life can return to normal and are frustrated that, despite all that, they now face more lockdowns.

There seems to be a certain vaccination reluctance in Australia and I do hope that does not mean you will lock your country to the rest of the world for years.

runnerbean Thu 24-Jun-21 10:36:12

We will continue to look after ourselves also. Too right!

maddyone Thu 24-Jun-21 10:18:05

PinkCakes

I'm sick of it all, too. How is it that 60,000 people can go to watch football, so many can watch tennis, then all those at Ascot, the G7 meeting - but I can't see my grandchildren do their sports day?

It's one rule for the rich and/or famous (no rules), and something else for the rest of us.

I absolutely agree. We did everything we were asked/told to do. We’ve obeyed the rules, worn a mask, sanitised, socially distanced, not gone out, etc and we’re still being restricted. On Sunday we’re going out for lunch with my elderly mother and a visiting cousin and her husband. But my two sons and their families can’t join us because of restrictions. But we’ll be seeing them the day before and the same day in our garden. It’s ridiculous. People’s mental health has been destroyed by these now unnecessary restrictions. At first the restrictions were needed, now they’re redundant because 3 out 5 adults are double vaccinated. My family are double vaccinated including my cousins. We live in a low transmission area, 28 cases per 100,000 but we’re under the same rules as Greater Manchester. Meanwhile the crowds at Ascot and football matches and cricket, the officials, the Heads of State from all over the world, all 2,500 football officials, and Uncle Tom Cobbley and all can freely mix, mingle, and ignore all the restrictions. Of course we’re fed up, we can see all this on our television screens every day.

nanna8 Thu 24-Jun-21 10:08:49

Alegrias1

Off topic, and probably not nice, and I hate to say it wink but...

I lived in Australia for a while. In any conversation where British people and Australians were present, it was rarely the poms who were whinging.

I agree with you. Not nice.

nanna8 Thu 24-Jun-21 10:05:56

I always thought the British were independent minded and, unlike us, would think before obeying. Obviously from your comments I was wrong. Also, things must have changed . Australians are very, very compliant - to their own detriment.

Alegrias1 Thu 24-Jun-21 09:54:14

Off topic, and probably not nice, and I hate to say it wink but...

I lived in Australia for a while. In any conversation where British people and Australians were present, it was rarely the poms who were whinging.

Parsley3 Thu 24-Jun-21 09:52:17

But you did say it nanna8.

Callistemon Thu 24-Jun-21 09:50:20

nanna8

Hate to say it but over here we all say the British are non compliant with rules etc and always have been. Not a criticism, just how it is and always has been.Same applies to the Americans.

Australians, on the other hand, always abide by the rules and the law!

To the letter!
Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the wee donkey, I've heard it all now.
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MaizieD Thu 24-Jun-21 09:38:59

Further to my earlier post:

More than 2 million adults in England have experienced coronavirus symptoms lasting over 12 weeks, government data suggests – double the previous estimate for long Covid.

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jun/24/more-than-2m-adults-in-england-have-had-long-covid-for-over-12-weeks-study?utm_term=ae22e1152f4a9acdbf799a875c8a3258&utm_campaign=MorningBriefingUK&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=morningbriefinguk_email

MerylStreep Thu 24-Jun-21 09:38:52

nanna8
You obviously don’t know the British as much as you think you do. We are very much a law / rule abiding people.

Alegrias1 Thu 24-Jun-21 09:33:10

nanna8

Hate to say it but over here we all say the British are non compliant with rules etc and always have been. Not a criticism, just how it is and always has been.Same applies to the Americans.

I'm a bit tired of the "British people don't stick to the rules" accusations. I know Melbourne had the longest and strictest lockdown, but its hardly like they all stayed in their houses like good little Aussies and did what they were told.

The people of Glasgow were subject to restrictions for nine months. The people in the NW of England have had similar, strict and draconian restrictions.

So although we can complain about all these people "not obeying in the rules", we need to take in to account that the vast majority of the 65 million British people have done exactly what has been asked of them.

I'm afraid the "whinging pom" routine doesn't work any more.

rosie1959 Thu 24-Jun-21 09:24:20

Growstuff to be fair the amount on ventilators has increased since the beginning of June but seems to be stabilising around 200 to 250 in the whole of the UK
In February when we had a similar amount of infections it was around 2500 to 3000 people
So vaccinations are doing their job and we hope this continues. There is always likely to be people who succumb to Coronavirus wether it be through age, ill health, or those who cannot or will not be vaccinated
But it’s obviously not enough to panic the government and many healthcare professionals or scientists Although there are some who I am sure would like us restricted forever

love0c Thu 24-Jun-21 09:22:34

Maizie Quite agree! There are now around 5 million people awaiting hospital treatment. The NHS was in trouble before covid. Goodness knows the state of it now regards funding. I can only think that if you need treatment in the future you may well need to pay for it yourself as there is no money! How on earth does that leave people who can not afford to pay for treatment. There is no 'magic money tree' and there never has been.

nanna8 Thu 24-Jun-21 09:20:55

Hate to say it but over here we all say the British are non compliant with rules etc and always have been. Not a criticism, just how it is and always has been.Same applies to the Americans.

MaizieD Thu 24-Jun-21 09:15:42

I worry for the younger generation and want their futures to look bright and not blighted by this covid.

As covid is rife among 'young people' (including school children who are too young for vaccination) and can leave some with life changing 'long covid'. But it seems that people aren't worried about those blighted lives. ?

Luckygirl Thu 24-Jun-21 09:14:48

When governments have done terrible things to their people they don't do it all at once they just do it a bit at a time, see how much they will take

We are fighting the virus not the government.

love0c Thu 24-Jun-21 09:05:50

Walk in the road then. However, you are far more likely to be run over by a car than you are getting covid from passing someone that takes all of one second! In my opinion it is people like you that are keeping this country on its knees. I worry for the younger generation and want their futures to look bright and not blighted by this covid.

growstuff Thu 24-Jun-21 01:32:50

GrannyGravy13

3nanny6 all the information I have seen regarding hospital admissions show 25% decrease in length of hospital stays and decreasing amount of ventilated patients.

You must be reading a different source from me. The number of patients in ventilation beds is increasing.

Biscuitmuncher Thu 24-Jun-21 01:00:54

When governments have done terrible things to their people they don't do it all at once they just do it a bit at a time, see how much they will take

lemongrove Wed 23-Jun-21 21:39:27

Because thousands of Scottish fans behaved irresponsibly is that a good reason for us all to?
Yes, live your life, see friends and family but do things the right way, it protects you as well as other people.
We go out, visit places, use cafes and pubs, but it’s done responsibly, as even though we have had both jabs it’s still possible to fall ill with Covid.
Weddings and funerals can have more guests now ( even if not as many as would be liked) and it won’t be long before we will be fully ‘back in business’ with everything open again.

MayBee70 Wed 23-Jun-21 21:35:14

love0c

Yes, I do agree. I am sick to death of it as well. I am trying to ignore what is going on. I have had two vaccinations and I do whatever I can. That is what I mean. I walk on the pavement and I flatly refuse to jump into the road if someone else passes. I see and hug my family. I am looking after my mental health. That is what is important to me now. I wear a mask in the shops because it would be difficult not to. I do not want to be jumped on for not wearing one. If everybody did what they can I am sure things would be better. If people want to hide away, then they can. I am not!

You’re the sort of person that has made going out for a walk hell for me over the past year or so. Would it be too much to ask to give socially distance yourself from people when walking on pavements given that the people you’re walking past might not be able to have the vaccine or are immune suppressed? And yes, I will walk in the road to give people space if necessary.

Luckygirl Wed 23-Jun-21 21:24:25

I absolutely accept the need for rules, but they should be the same for everyone.

Ellianne Wed 23-Jun-21 19:53:41

I think the rise in numbers amongst young people shows us what a truly awful situation we older people would now be in without the vaccines.
With that in mind, it also shows us that it is now time to get back to living a normal life again.

PinkCakes Wed 23-Jun-21 19:40:20

I'm sick of it all, too. How is it that 60,000 people can go to watch football, so many can watch tennis, then all those at Ascot, the G7 meeting - but I can't see my grandchildren do their sports day?

It's one rule for the rich and/or famous (no rules), and something else for the rest of us.

rosie1959 Wed 23-Jun-21 19:15:17

GrannyGravy13

3nanny6 all the information I have seen regarding hospital admissions show 25% decrease in length of hospital stays and decreasing amount of ventilated patients.

That’s what I have read as well. Infections may be rising but the vaccine is doing its job
Time to get on with life I still follow most of the rules but not to fussy if I have more than 6 in my home at any one time
Report in the Times that we are on track for July 19 let’s hope they stick to it this time