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Derek Chauvin sentenced to 22 and a half years

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Talullah Fri 25-Jun-21 21:05:34

Some will say too lenient. Some will say too harsh. I hope that USA doesn't see any more riots as a result of this

25Avalon Mon 28-Jun-21 08:10:26

Inclined to agree Katie59.

NotSpaghetti Sun 27-Jun-21 18:41:52

Katie, did you read the Judge's reasoning that I linked above?

Katie59 Sun 27-Jun-21 17:33:24

25Avalon

This is exactly what’s wrong. Justice should be universal regardless of what colour you are. Hopefully the judge was not prejuidiced against Chauvin who has the right to appeal.

It was a political sentence any less would have led to riots and further loss of life, second degree murder would normally been much less. The only legacy of the George Floyd affair has been defunding of the police and a rise of crime within in the black community.

Summerlove Sun 27-Jun-21 16:08:25

Very good point you have made there. The number of rogue police officers does seem to be on the rise.

I strongly disagree with this.

They’ve always been there.

Now they are being caught out.

Where I am, so many women have been abused by their police officer partners. But nothing happens. They protect each other.

Calling it out is fantastic.

25Avalon Sat 26-Jun-21 17:44:55

This is exactly what’s wrong. Justice should be universal regardless of what colour you are. Hopefully the judge was not prejuidiced against Chauvin who has the right to appeal.

Talullah Sat 26-Jun-21 16:37:12

Barmeyoldbat

How many years would he have got if he had been black.

I would imagine the same. A few years ago an innocent woman was shot and the Somali/American police officer was sentenced to 12 and a half years. Very different circumstances but he was dealt with in a similar way.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48562834

I think Chauvin's sentence was lenient. And as for his mother saying he was an innocent man. Words failed me. Mother's love surely can't blind you so much.

Blinko Sat 26-Jun-21 15:33:37

Barmeyoldbat

How many years would he have got if he had been black.

Quite - if the situation had been reversed and a black police officer had killed a white citizen, who knows, indeed.

NotSpaghetti Sat 26-Jun-21 15:22:20

Newatthis

The ‘half year’ is interesting.

This is because they work in months.

Sarnia Sat 26-Jun-21 15:05:51

BlueBelle

Not nearly long enough he’s a murderer and it was a 100 times worse than a close range bullet that would have killed immediately That man suffered for 8 or 9 minutes have you ever stood still or knelt for 9 minutes it seems never ending He squeezed the life out of that man for 9 minutes it wasn’t a whoops ‘my guns gone off’ moment it’s cold blooded murder and a murder the whole world watched
It’s disgraceful and America’s whole penal system is a disgrace from the death penalty in some states to this brutality that would have happily passed under the radar if some brave person hadn’t have filmed it
And U.K. needs to pull its socks up as we could go down the same route with rogue police officers

Very good point you have made there. The number of rogue police officers does seem to be on the rise.

Barmeyoldbat Sat 26-Jun-21 15:05:43

How many years would he have got if he had been black.

Newatthis Sat 26-Jun-21 14:59:03

The ‘half year’ is interesting.

Sarnia Sat 26-Jun-21 14:53:43

Chauvin took George Floyd's life so he should forfeit his own. Life ought to mean exactly that.

Summerlove Sat 26-Jun-21 13:59:42

Not nearly long enough, but far more than I ever expected him to get.

timetogo2016 Sat 26-Jun-21 13:20:21

I thought the very same Charleygirl15.

Nonogran Sat 26-Jun-21 11:37:03

He got what he deserved. Should have been more. Brutal horrible man.

25Avalon Sat 26-Jun-21 09:24:02

Way too much brutality amongst the police in the US. Is Chauvin still going to appeal?

Charleygirl5 Sat 26-Jun-21 09:22:54

I cannot see him surviving in prison.

nanna8 Sat 26-Jun-21 09:13:53

He earned it and brought a lot of disgrace on his profession. About right to my mind.

BlueBelle Sat 26-Jun-21 09:07:24

Not nearly long enough he’s a murderer and it was a 100 times worse than a close range bullet that would have killed immediately That man suffered for 8 or 9 minutes have you ever stood still or knelt for 9 minutes it seems never ending He squeezed the life out of that man for 9 minutes it wasn’t a whoops ‘my guns gone off’ moment it’s cold blooded murder and a murder the whole world watched
It’s disgraceful and America’s whole penal system is a disgrace from the death penalty in some states to this brutality that would have happily passed under the radar if some brave person hadn’t have filmed it
And U.K. needs to pull its socks up as we could go down the same route with rogue police officers

NotSpaghetti Sat 26-Jun-21 08:30:54

According to the judge, Peter Cahill,
^ Over the last 10 years, two-thirds of sentences imposed for second-degree murder were within the guideline range, which for Mr. Chauvin was between 10 and a half and 15 years. One in five got stiffer sentences, and 13 percent got lower sentences, he wrote. Of the longer prison sentences, the most common was 20 years.^

In only two cases were both abuse of authority and particular cruelty cited as aggravating factors, and both involved young children as victims and received longer sentences.

People convicted of second-degree murder in Minnesota with no prior offenses would serve 12 and a half years. The maximum he could have been given was 30 years. The judge gave a 26 page document explaining his reasoning.
I suggest people read it.
Here it is:

webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:x_11AyAFUyYJ:https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12646/MCRO_27-CR-20-12646_Sentencing-Order_2021-06-25_20210625145755.pdf+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=safari

silverlining48 Sat 26-Jun-21 08:16:30

Not knowing how this works in USA I was wondering how long he would actually serve.
It was a shocking incident to witness but had it not been recorded this, like so many others, will have gone unnoticed.
It seems the American police are a force and not a service.

CocoPops Sat 26-Jun-21 04:02:39

If he withstands his time in jail I wonder what kind of a life he'll have when released. Maybe he will need a change of identity.

CocoPops Sat 26-Jun-21 03:39:02

Derek Chauvin will be eligible for supervised release from jail after he has served 15 years of his sentence, minus time already served, under Minnesota law.

Sandycat Sat 26-Jun-21 00:34:07

Apparently experts are saying he has autism or Asperger and that the sentencing is more what would be given for manslaughter than murder. Don’t suppose he will come to any harm in jail as he will probably be put in solitary to start with and moved to an easier facility once all the publicity has died down. Out in 10 with good behaviour.

mokryna Fri 25-Jun-21 22:50:22

Too lenient. He must serve the complete sentence of 22 and a half years in full.