A question

GrannyGravy13

I always put my X in the box of the person who I think will do best for my constituency, currently they are Conservative.

I could not vote for someone who may/will not put their constituents foremost.

It is a difficult time politically, I am not happy with a lot of the things this Government has done.

I am not going to insult every Conservative MP or voter as I know that there are plenty of good ones out there.

When anyone votes for what they say is a good constituent MP they of course vote for the party as well, and knowingly voting for a party leader who completely lacks any moral integrity, has been sacked for lying, has broken the law, lied to the Queen, is corrupt etc. Etc. Then I would fervently hope that they do so with a good deal of hesitancy and reluctance at the very least, with the hope that it will improve. However, understanding now that in fact it has got so much worse and still supporting such trash suggests to me that supporters of such trash are not above doing those things themselves.

I always put my X in the box of the person who I think will do best for my constituency, currently they are Conservative.

I could not vote for someone who may/will not put their constituents foremost.

It is a difficult time politically, I am not happy with a lot of the things this Government has done.

I am not going to insult every Conservative MP or voter as I know that there are plenty of good ones out there.

Alegrias1

I trust my MP. I trust my MSP.

I didn't vote for either of them but they seem to be honest people doing the best they can for their constituents and their country.

I also don't think telling people who don't think like me politically that they don't have 2 braincells to rub together is a good style of political debate.

Maybe not, but exasperation at the lack of moral integrity drives me insane.

I honestly think many people don't care. Even when you try to point out what is going on, the lies, the corruption, the nepotism they don't want to know. Boris Johnson got Brexit done and we are leading the world (?) in the vaccination programme. And of course, they are all the same so nobody else could have done it better...

I find the apathy appalling. It's all so depressing.

I trust my MP. I trust my MSP.

I didn't vote for either of them but they seem to be honest people doing the best they can for their constituents and their country.

I also don't think telling people who don't think like me politically that they don't have 2 braincells to rub together is a good style of political debate.

And Tony Blair was a wonderful man!

I don’t trust any of them. All you can do is just vote for your MP for the work he does in the constituency, or vote for the party who you agree with at the time.

poshpaws

It truly baffles me that anyone with 2 working brain cells and a minimum supply of morals could even contemplate supporting this government which is composed, it seems to me, of corrupt, self-serving, hypocritical, dishonest bas*ards who care nothing whatsoever about the people of Britain and only about increasing their and their cronies personal wealth. Rees-Mogg in particular gets my deepest contempt, because he pretends to be a Christian whilst flouting all of Jesus' teachings. And don't get me started on the sociopathic, serial adulterer PM who apparently can't tell the difference between truth and lie ...

Well said

succintly said thanks.

It truly baffles me that anyone with 2 working brain cells and a minimum supply of morals could even contemplate supporting this government which is composed, it seems to me, of corrupt, self-serving, hypocritical, dishonest bas*ards who care nothing whatsoever about the people of Britain and only about increasing their and their cronies personal wealth. Rees-Mogg in particular gets my deepest contempt, because he pretends to be a Christian whilst flouting all of Jesus' teachings. And don't get me started on the sociopathic, serial adulterer PM who apparently can't tell the difference between truth and lie ...

Callistemon

Alegrias1

Beckett

To put it another way - how much do people distrust the Labour party that they are prepared to continue to support the Conservatives?

Other parties are available.

But it's like banging your head against a brick wall voting for one of the other parties here.

Scotland used to be Labour, of course. Till we all got fed up of it and started voting for somebody else.

Just saying its not worth it, we might as well give up and just not bother with voting at all.

BlueBelle

*Personally I don't care as long as they stay in control* .
minimo and your attitude is exactly the problem ‘I will vote for a barrel load of worms to rule the country as long as it’s not Labour’
toadinthehole we are doing well on the vaccine programme because the NHS is managing it NOT the government, everything from track and trace forwards has been diabolically handled by the government and a complete and utter mess
I wish some people would take their rose coloured specs off

I’ve taken them off, and am signing out. It’s so lovely we can all respect each other’s views so graciously!

Personally I don't care as long as they stay in control .
minimo and your attitude is exactly the problem ‘I will vote for a barrel load of worms to rule the country as long as it’s not Labour’
toadinthehole we are doing well on the vaccine programme because the NHS is managing it NOT the government, everything from track and trace forwards has been diabolically handled by the government and a complete and utter mess
I wish some people would take their rose coloured specs off

Toadinthehole

Sorry, posted before finished. When we went for our second vaccine, the staff there were praising the government on the good job they’ve done with the vaccine program. We’re well ahead of the rest of the world. There was a buzz of positivity, and I was pleased to witness it.

I'll happily trust the vaccinators and staff on health matters.

Geopolitics, not so much.

growstuff

DiscoDancer1975

growstuff

No HolySox the Blair government did not steer the country into economic failure. I really wish I knew how this myth has come to be perpetuated and believed.

I think Holysox is saying Thatcher steered us into economic failure, but Labour carried on with that policy. I may have read it wrong though.

I thought she meant the 2008 crash, which was caused by the sub-prime mortgage market in the US and the crash of Lehmann (amongst others). I guess you think that the Blair government wasn't "socialist" enough.

I don’t think about governments much at all to be honest with you. I’m a Christian, and tend to believe Jesus when He said ‘ trust no man’.
But that’s another thread. I wish you all a pleasant day, Sainsbury’s is calling!

DiscoDancer1975

growstuff

No HolySox the Blair government did not steer the country into economic failure. I really wish I knew how this myth has come to be perpetuated and believed.

I think Holysox is saying Thatcher steered us into economic failure, but Labour carried on with that policy. I may have read it wrong though.

I thought she meant the 2008 crash, which was caused by the sub-prime mortgage market in the US and the crash of Lehmann (amongst others). I guess you think that the Blair government wasn't "socialist" enough.

Toadinthehole

MaizieD

This government may have faults but they have actioned Brexit, the job they were voted in to do, and are working hard to fight Covid.

They have actioned Brexit, which is bringing the country to its knees economically and they have worked hard to let covid run riot in the UK.

Can you think of anything good that they have done for the UK? (Apart from 'vaccines', which are not the be all and end all of a government's responsibility for the nation's citizens)

‘ apart from the vaccines’. You make it sound like an insignificant sideline.

It isn't insignificant but it is only one success among a catalogue of complete failure. And we can't be totally confident of its success as the government let the Delta variant in which has every chance of mutating to a vaccine resistant strain as it runs virtually unchecked...

What is more, it is just one small area of government responsibility. Tell me what great successes they've had in the areas of Foreign policy, social welfare, education, climate change etc. etc. All areas for which they should be responsible.

Toadinthehole

Sorry, posted before finished. When we went for our second vaccine, the staff there were praising the government on the good job they’ve done with the vaccine program. We’re well ahead of the rest of the world. There was a buzz of positivity, and I was pleased to witness it.

What have the vaccines go to do with the Health Secretary flouting the very rules he has given us??

Toadinthehole

Sorry, posted before finished. When we went for our second vaccine, the staff there were praising the government on the good job they’ve done with the vaccine program. We’re well ahead of the rest of the world. There was a buzz of positivity, and I was pleased to witness it.

Really? When I had my vaccinations, none of the staff made any comments about the government. The people who have done the good job and should be praised for the vaccine programme are part of the NHS, who organised and delivered it.

growstuff

No HolySox the Blair government did not steer the country into economic failure. I really wish I knew how this myth has come to be perpetuated and believed.

I think Holysox is saying Thatcher steered us into economic failure, but Labour carried on with that policy. I may have read it wrong though.

midgey

I cannot agree Minimo, this ‘lot’ are truly beyond the pale and yes I’m afraid I did vote for them as I didn’t want Corbin.

Good to hear an honest answer !

Toadinthehole

Alegrias1

Its an interesting phenomenon that even when somebody admits that the Tories have acted despicably, its very often followed by the other lot are just as bad. As though it was no more than we could expect. I do think that maybe many people just don't care and can't see what impact all this has on their day to day lives?

I agree Disco. It’s not about not caring. It’s about taking responsibility for yourself, and not relying on others to do it for you. If Matt Hancock flouts the rules, it doesn’t mean we have to. We have to keep ourselves safe as best we can, and in so doing, the people we love.
We need to stop being shocked by the antics of politicians, and learn to expect them.

No, we do not have to expect them. Have our expectations and standards really sunk that low?

Sorry, posted before finished. When we went for our second vaccine, the staff there were praising the government on the good job they’ve done with the vaccine program. We’re well ahead of the rest of the world. There was a buzz of positivity, and I was pleased to witness it.

No HolySox the Blair government did not steer the country into economic failure. I really wish I knew how this myth has come to be perpetuated and believed.

MaizieD

^This government may have faults but they have actioned Brexit, the job they were voted in to do, and are working hard to fight Covid.^

They have actioned Brexit, which is bringing the country to its knees economically and they have worked hard to let covid run riot in the UK.

Can you think of anything good that they have done for the UK? (Apart from 'vaccines', which are not the be all and end all of a government's responsibility for the nation's citizens)

‘ apart from the vaccines’. You make it sound like an insignificant sideline.

This government may have faults but they have actioned Brexit, the job they were voted in to do, and are working hard to fight Covid.

They have actioned Brexit, which is bringing the country to its knees economically and they have worked hard to let covid run riot in the UK.

Can you think of anything good that they have done for the UK? (Apart from 'vaccines', which are not the be all and end all of a government's responsibility for the nation's citizens)