A question

And THAT is a very good question indeed.

I haven’t seen one comment, on any news site or forum, by a person defending Matt Hancock today. Perhaps this is the step too far?

Just to clarify, I meant a step too far for Tory supporters. The Tory step too far for me occurred well over 40 years ago.

MoorlandMooner

Just to clarify, I meant a step too far for Tory supporters. The Tory step too far for me occurred well over 40 years ago.

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I don't think you'll get much response to your question, Wwmk2.

As silence is usually held to mean 'consent' we might assume that they are perfectly OK with the things you list.

Jo Maugham is reporting that he is sending a dossier of information to the Serious Fraud Office this weekend

twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1408491686540550150

MaizieD

I don't think you'll get much response to your question, Wwmk2.

As silence is usually held to mean 'consent' we might assume that they are perfectly OK with the things you list.

To be honest I knew that it must be rhetorical, but I’m sort of hoping that honesty would prevail, but I suppose I can’t expect any of that either.

Remember Trump.saying he could stand in the middle of New York and shoot somebody and they would still vote for him?.

Are the Johnson supporters any different?

I was sort of expecting a bit more class as it were.

I suppose the Tory voters, whatever they say, and I’ve had my say on another thread, are wary of the abuse and snide remarks made from such as you on here.

The Tories can do exactly what they like & people will still vote for them. What is wrong with these people?

Perhaps we ought to take it one at a time.

Let’s just try law-breaking.

Anyone like to defend that?

Lin52

I suppose the Tory voters, whatever they say, and I’ve had my say on another thread, are wary of the abuse and snide remarks made from such as you on here.

I think we'd just like to know how much wrong doing you are prepared to tolerate in a government.

Lin52

I suppose the Tory voters, whatever they say, and I’ve had my say on another thread, are wary of the abuse and snide remarks made from such as you on here.

A) that’s very silly
B) that does not answer the question.
C) Tory supporters on GN can give as good as they get

No one willing it seems to defend law breaking. So it seems that we can all agree that the Tories break the law with seeming impunity.

How about rule breaking then? Any defenders?

Whitewavemark2

No one willing it seems to defend law breaking. So it seems that we can all agree that the Tories break the law with seeming impunity.

How about rule breaking then? Any defenders?

The more telling point is that no-one seems willing to condemn law breaking.

No defenders of rule breaking either it seems.

Now to dishonesty. That must be easier. Surely at least one of the cabinet can be found who has never lied to the voter or fellow parliamentarians.

I know Rees-Mogg has actually be seen lying down on the job, but I’m sure as a good Christian has never been found to be dishonest.

Oh! wait of course he was dishonest to our Sovereign Lady wasn’t he?

Oh yes and of course there is that little matter of shipping his money overseas so that he helps as little as possible towards the progress of the U.K.

Sorry I thought I was being helpful.

To put it another way - how much do people distrust the Labour party that they are prepared to continue to support the Conservatives?

Beckett

To put it another way - how much do people distrust the Labour party that they are prepared to continue to support the Conservatives?

Other parties are available.

Beckett

To put it another way - how much do people distrust the Labour party that they are prepared to continue to support the Conservatives?

I’m not interested in whether Tory supporters would support another party, we know they did in their 10s of thousands in the recent bye-election.

No, I’m interested in those who come hell, high water and all those things listed don’t seem to find anything odd over supporting this government.

I’m hoping that just like Brexit someone can explain and defend their support.

Oh we can’t exonerate GOVE either as he’s just been found guilty of GROSS MISUSE OF PUBLIC MONEY.

Apparently he channelled money earmarked for covid use to a poll about attitudes to the union. I suppose he just as well as give the money to one Tory friend as another. It is all the same.

Another group I am on allows a member to put another member on 'ignore' but I don't think Gransnet has this facility?

Liz46

Another group I am on allows a member to put another member on 'ignore' but I don't think Gransnet has this facility?

Are you not capable of doing so without a button?

A poster on this forum once told me that Tory supporters weren't fickle.

Which I took to mean that the promise of "Tory values" overwhelms any disappointment they might feel at this dishonest lying bunch of charlatans who are only in politics for what they can get. Maybe they think anything is worth it for low taxes, a privatised health service and the prospect of being given a free picture of the Queen for your house?

Maybe somebody will come and argue the point. Or maybe they're all ignoring us because we're such bullies who keep expecting inconvenient things like "facts". Poor wee souls.