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Batley and Spen by-election

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varian Mon 28-Jun-21 18:35:23

As if it was not bad enough having two far right candidates, including one from the group that Jo Cox's murderer belonged to, we also see the ghastly George Galloway laughing as thugs from out of the constituency attacked the Labour Party candidate and her supporters, and now fake leaflets aiming to alienated local Muslims from the Labour Party. This looks like being one of the dirtiest elections we have ever seen.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jun/28/tuc-condemns-batley-byelection-dirty-tricks-after-fake-labour-leaflet

varian Thu 01-Jul-21 17:58:39

Anniel

Some of you fail to recall that it was a Labour Govt that encouraged immigration and naturally you cannot blame the Muslims from bringing their Islamic beliefs here. Younger Muslims are probably much more progressive and open minded than their parents. Labour might have dug their own grave in this Constituency by making Jo Cox’s sister their candidate. She is a Lesbian and Muslims disapprove and i understand that of the local members who wanted to represent Labour one was a Muslim but they were passed over for the choice of candidate. I read that Ms Leadbetter was only a very recent new mrmber of the party. I read that the Muslim population will play a pivotal
role in the vote. It is most upsetting that no candidate has openly supported that poor teacher who fears for his life. None of them has the backbone to stand up for him. That includes the Consevatives. Whatever your party preferences all of us should be against hounding this teacher just as Ms Leadbetter’s sexuality is none of anyone’s business. But maybe we will find that the policy of multiculturalism has divided us rather than brought us altogether. Varian et al will be along to criticise my remarks along with other Labour Loyalists. Quite frankly the current bunch if politicians regardless of party are pygmies compared to those who went before them and i do not see those we elect getting any better in the near future. At least i can see that!

I'm sorry to disappoint you Anniel but I am not a Labour Loyalist. I am a fully paid up member of the Liberal Democrats.

I am appalled by this corrupt Tory government. I am appalled by the negative behaviour of the left wing of the Labour Party, but mostly I am appalled by the fact that our country is not a democracy. The appalling Tory government was foisted upon us by a minority of voters.

The only way we can ever get rid of these Tory chancers is by winning elections which are run under the totally undemocratic FPTP system and it is therefore necessary for all of us who do not want a Tory MP in our constituency to vote for the candidate best placed to beat the Tory candidate.

In Batley and Spen that candidate is the Labour Party candidate, Kim Leadbetter and so although I might prefer the LibDem candidate to win, I know he has very little hope of winning (and I think he also knows that) so I recommend everyone who has a vote in this by-election to vote for Kim Leadbetter.

winterwhite Thu 01-Jul-21 18:11:32

Yes, I do think it is cynical (in response to a question above) to make assumptions about KL's other work drying up. I thought she had just shown little interest in politics until the by-election drew it to her attention. Is there anything so very wrong with that? Has happened before. I'm not a Labour Party supporter but I certainly hope she wins

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growstuff Thu 01-Jul-21 19:34:31

winterwhite

Yes, I do think it is cynical (in response to a question above) to make assumptions about KL's other work drying up. I thought she had just shown little interest in politics until the by-election drew it to her attention. Is there anything so very wrong with that? Has happened before. I'm not a Labour Party supporter but I certainly hope she wins

What happened to the people who always say that MPs should have "real world" experience? I hope she wins too, although I fear she won't.

Devorgilla Thu 01-Jul-21 19:39:49

I am somewhat dismayed to see the criticism of KL having just joined the Party prior to the by-election. She was given special dispensation by the party because she has been involved with the charity work associated with her family and did not want to be seen to favour one party over another in the distribution. Seems reasonable to me. She is not the only candidate to have been given such dispensation. People in the armed forces who decide to change career and stand are also given it. They are prevented from belonging to a political party. It is quite normal for it to happen in such circumstances. You can get dispensation if you stood for another party in recent years but one faction now wants you in their camp. To those of you who say she is looking for the 'sympathy' vote - it is 5 years since her sister was assassinated. A long time to wait. Memories fade. She is standing because a perfectly good Labour candidate moved on, creating a vacancy. She has worked in the area with charities and perhaps feels she can now do more good as an MP. Good on her. I'm rooting for her and I hope she wins. At least her politics are those of 'unite' rather that 'divide and rule'.

Saetana Fri 02-Jul-21 00:35:53

Kim Leadbetter was nominated for the Labour Party candidate because she is the sister of Jo Cox - no other reason, she has zero political experience and only joined the Labour Party this year. Voters are naturally reluctant to be manipulated in this way and, whilst I do not have a crystal ball, I would expect the Conservatives to win the seat. Leadbetter is not qualified for the job, its just Labour dog whistle politics that have made her their candidate.

muffinthemoo Fri 02-Jul-21 00:38:29

I still feel terribly sorry for Jo's children. Not a political opinion, they have just been on my mind frequently due to coverage of this by election.

Yorki Fri 02-Jul-21 02:27:03

Lin52.. I'm totally with you on your views.
Also, If Corbyn had his way we'd all be under shariah law by now. He is one crazy SOB. If another labourite sharing his views got into power
this country would have no hope. I like Boris, he's not a snow flake yes man. And I 'm glad we're out of the EU, we should never have gone into it. I'm sure all you lefties would like to argue, but I'm proud of our country and that's how it should remain. I'm a big supporter of our war veterans and not so long ago I was speaking to one, who told me that if his comrades were alive to see what they had fought for, regarding immigration control and the lack of harsh consequences for terrorists and Muslim extremists, they'd feel like they'd died for nothing. Britain is seen as the land of milk and honey, its time our leaders got tough and made British people proud again. I can never see this happening under a Labour government, maybe once, but certainly not now.

growstuff Fri 02-Jul-21 03:04:40

Saetana

Kim Leadbetter was nominated for the Labour Party candidate because she is the sister of Jo Cox - no other reason, she has zero political experience and only joined the Labour Party this year. Voters are naturally reluctant to be manipulated in this way and, whilst I do not have a crystal ball, I would expect the Conservatives to win the seat. Leadbetter is not qualified for the job, its just Labour dog whistle politics that have made her their candidate.

Exactly how were voters "manipulated"?

growstuff Fri 02-Jul-21 03:10:59

Yorki Claiming that the UK would be under shariah law if Corbyn had won a GE is straying into ridiculous loony tune territory.

PS. I'm not a Corbyn supporter. I'm not even a Labour voter. However, this kind of assertion is just silly. In any case, Corbyn sits as an Independent.

Casdon Fri 02-Jul-21 05:47:05

Labour hold. Today will be a good one.

MayBee70 Fri 02-Jul-21 05:49:36

Just woke up, put the iPad on straight away to find out. I’m overjoyed!!! Going to celebrate with a cup of tea!!

growstuff Fri 02-Jul-21 05:51:05

Well done to Kim Leadbeater and her team! Fantastic win!

MawBe Fri 02-Jul-21 05:52:42

Very happy to see that despite Galloway dividing the vote , Labour have held the seat albeit by a small majority. Kim Leadbeter will be a good constituency MP with her constituents’ welfare at the heart of her policies and loyalties.

FannyCornforth Fri 02-Jul-21 06:12:33

'Morning all.
Well done Kim. Excellent result.
I'm putting on the kettle too! brew

MaizieD Fri 02-Jul-21 06:18:22

I'm so relieved. Well done Kim and her team.?

MayBee70 Fri 02-Jul-21 06:21:10

This isn’t just a win for Labour but a win for decency and honour and all round niceness. Well done the people of Batley as well.

Riverwalk Fri 02-Jul-21 06:25:47

A good outcome in the end after a very dirty fight - surprised to see Galloway polled so many votes.

I hope the far rights lost their deposits.

vegansrock Fri 02-Jul-21 06:35:01

good result- much better than the gloomy predictions.

varian Fri 02-Jul-21 06:55:54

Good result for Kim Leadbetter but pretty shocking that Galloway got so many votes.

Dinahmo Fri 02-Jul-21 07:02:15

Excellent news. Perhaps people will lay off KS for a bit.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 02-Jul-21 07:05:49

Good.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 02-Jul-21 07:09:08

Well done Ms.Leadbetter.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 02-Jul-21 07:17:42

There is a suggestion that the Tories have reached peak popularity, and now that the vaccine is up and running Johnson will no longer be able to rely on that for support.

It is gradually getting back to politics as usual, so now let’s see if the population begin to turn their attention to other issues.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 02-Jul-21 07:33:38

Another bit of good news is that the Libs have taken Cobham away from the Tories.

That really is deep into blue heartland, what with Amersham and now this win, I am beginning at last to feel a lightness of being coming on?