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Little Britain - the state of England today

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Dinahmo Tue 13-Jul-21 21:36:42

I have picked upon England since I am not as aware of what is going on in the other countries of the Union with regard to the state of the nation.

I've been sitting in my home in France, with tempests outside, watching the Channel 4 News. It was so depressing.

90,000 families living in sub-standard temporary accommodation.

Racism

Water companies deliberately releasing sewage into rivers and sea, despite all the rules and regs and heavy fines.

Cuts to overseas aid - by one of the richest nations.

30,000 children in care moved last year away from their local area, schools, support networks etc, often without prior warning (not on Channel 4)

Cuts in the arts lessons in schools.

Football

We came to France, bought a plot of land and built a house. I guess we were lucky to do so. It was an adventure, something to stop us getting bogged down in our retirement. At the time we didn't intend to stay here but now I'm not so sure. The England that I loved has disappeared.

In the early fifties we moved to Dorset. Parents under 30 with 3 children. We got a council house, possibly because of my Father's job - I don't know. In those days we had one bath a week and didn't have individual towels. The loo was in the bathroom. in the early sixties we moved to a brand new house, with, joy o joy, a second separate loo. Today my house has 3 bedrooms and 3 bath/shower rooms. And at the same time there are tens of thousands of families living in sub standard housing. WHY?

The govt is picking on subjects like Voter ID. statues and BLM because they know that it will stir up a large proportion of the population. But they're not as important as other things that are happening, like the slow but sure privatisation of the NHS. How many of you have only been able to access your GP (if you have one, as we did in times gone by, who knew oneself) by video calls or Zoom or whatever?

The water companies are privately owned so they don't give a toss. Southern Water has been fined £90 million - so much but yet not enough to prevent them from continuing to release sewage into the sea. Channel had a map showing where there were releases along the south coast today. At least a dozen. it's lucky it's raining and there are heavy seas so people won't be swimming there any time soon.

The behaviour of football fans towards supporters of the opposition. Forcing their way into the stands reserved for the Danes and being abusive. Pulling a Danish mother's hair and calling her a whore and spitting at people.

I care about these things and yet I don't live in the UK at the moment. Why aren't you all caring about the wrongs? And, if you do, why aren't you doing something about it?

You can tell me that it's always been like this but I've been on this earth for 74 years and it's about times things changed.

Callistemon Fri 16-Jul-21 21:29:30

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Chewbacca Fri 16-Jul-21 21:23:28

Flags for everyone! Take you pick....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Callistemon Fri 16-Jul-21 21:23:05

Kali2

Callimston 'It's only the ones in France who seem to keep a foot in both camps, so to speak, a home in France and a flat here as do several posters on here.
So they don't seem properly settled in either country, and I wonder why.''

Goodness, did you have the same geography teacher as Dominic Raab, perhaps?

Some people moved to France for the very reason they wanted to keep a foot in each camp. be close to family and grandchildren, and visit the country where they grew up, worked and loved... until they retired. And know they can jump in the car, a train or plane, to be home in a few hours if needed or desired.

Who would never ever xonsidered going to NZ or OZ, or even USA, for the very reason mentionned.

By precising my post you have altered the meaning, Kali2

I said
We've got family living in Australia, New Zealand, Canada, America and France.
It's only the ones in France who seem to keep a foot in both camps, so to speak, a home in France and a flat here as do several posters on here.
So they don't seem properly settled in either country, and I wonder why.

I said that is my experience in our family - and some Gransnetters who post on here too.

I suspect my geography is as good or perhaps better than most.

Who would never ever xonsidered going to NZ or OZ, or even USA, for the very reason mentionned.

A very underhand remark to make knowing how many Gransnetters who have family living in farflung places whom they are missing very much at the moment.

But not unexpected.

Ellianne Fri 16-Jul-21 21:19:28

Not if it’s the British shorthair I had that wee’d and poo’d everywhere and exuded huge balls of fur everywhere she moved. And killed every bird that set foot in the garden.
I can beat that Maybee. My French moggies came to live in London and took on any foxes and rats that came off the tube line into our garden. They lived the life of Riley, or should that be the life of Louis or François?

MayBee70 Fri 16-Jul-21 21:18:57

I always wanted a Siamese. I did have Burmese for many years though. We switched to Shorthairs as they had more road sense.

mokryna Fri 16-Jul-21 21:16:06

MayBee70

mokryna

I did breed cats many many yonks ago which the offspring must have kept many people company in recent times. Will that count?

Not if it’s the British shorthair I had that wee’d and poo’d everywhere and exuded huge balls of fur everywhere she moved. And killed every bird that set foot in the garden.

Late 60s Lynx Point Siamese and short haired colour point. Lovely cats, they really talk to you and tell you off if some is not to their liking.

Ellianne Fri 16-Jul-21 21:15:08

Kali2 IF as Chewbacca said you had entered this discussion 3 days ago, and IF you had read my comments, you would have understood that in my job in France I was responsible for resettling British families. This involved discussion of financial matters, employment, French law, the education of their children etc. That is why I said, I think if you are moving abroad you should be prepared to go the whole hog and not keep a home back at home. Meaning total commitment and total immersion. A clean break. Most young families I resettled would not be in a position to run a home in both countries, unless their work company were funding it.

Callistemon Fri 16-Jul-21 21:10:19

Chewbacca well done!
I don't mow anyone's lawns, not even my own
However, I do pay someone to mow ours so I am keeping the plebs in employment.

Kali2 Fri 16-Jul-21 21:09:44

Well I am glad my grandchildren will always know I thought all I can, and will continue to do so- to stop this stupid, destructive Brexit.

As for other good deeds- the list is so long, so I will keep quiet ;)

mokryna Fri 16-Jul-21 21:07:03

?? thank you merci thank you

Callistemon Fri 16-Jul-21 21:06:28

Kali2

Perhaps you are on the wrong thread Chewb???

No, I don't think so.
Apparently everyone has to virtue signal and outdo each other.

Along the lines of 'What did you do in the war, Granny?'
Knitting socks is taboo as is the black market.

mokryna purrfect!

Chewbacca Fri 16-Jul-21 21:05:25

Certainly does count mokryna! Counts as Services To The Community. Collect your flag of choice please! smile

MayBee70 Fri 16-Jul-21 21:04:46

mokryna

I did breed cats many many yonks ago which the offspring must have kept many people company in recent times. Will that count?

Not if it’s the British shorthair I had that wee’d and poo’d everywhere and exuded huge balls of fur everywhere she moved. And killed every bird that set foot in the garden.

mokryna Fri 16-Jul-21 20:56:33

I did breed cats many many yonks ago which the offspring must have kept many people company in recent times. Will that count?

Kali2 Fri 16-Jul-21 20:39:41

Ellianne '' I think if you are moving abroad you should be prepared to go the whole hog and not keep a home back at home. It's almost like you're hanging on to it as a possible future escape route let alone as an investment. ''

what an incredible statement! Surely it is about individual circumstances! It is totally possible to speak two languages fluently, and a few more too, and be totally integrated and knowledgeable about local conditions, laws, and all aspects of culture! And legally too, all above board.

Why is that 'worse' than those who do move lock, stock and barrel, and never integrate, stay part of a closed expat community, speaking English louder and louder, and having stuff delivered by vans from the UK (well, no longer thanks to B...) and having UK workers in white vans coming o work on the black and by-pass local artisans, etc.?

Many Brits have holiday homes abroad where they have no connections- why would it be wrong to keep a small place in the UK for regular visits and in case they ever need to return, for health reasons, or because widowed to be near children, etc, and not become a burden to the UK? Blimey!

Chewbacca Fri 16-Jul-21 19:39:43

Read the full thread Meryl? Good heaven's above, why? If they'd read the full thread they wouldn't be able to nip in, 3 days after the thread began, with an ever so amusing, smart arsed comment! grin

varian Fri 16-Jul-21 19:38:09

We need to educate more people

www.theguardian.com/science/2021/feb/22/people-with-extremist-views-less-able-to-do-complex-mental-tasks-research-suggests

MerylStreep Fri 16-Jul-21 19:19:44

Kali2

Perhaps you are on the wrong thread Chewb???

If you had read the whole thread you would see that your wrong.

MissAdventure Fri 16-Jul-21 19:16:08

Well you people need to make up your mind what it is you want from us.
A list of good deeds, dignified silence, or a bloody good argument. grin

Chewbacca Fri 16-Jul-21 19:15:34

Nope

Kali2 Fri 16-Jul-21 19:12:53

Perhaps you are on the wrong thread Chewb???

Chewbacca Fri 16-Jul-21 18:35:26

I forgot to add that I've contacted my local council - Independent/Labour controlled, to ask them to reconsider their plans to charge vulnerable people, and over 85 year olds who live alone, at least £260 a year for their alarm pendants and other telecare devices.

Chewbacca Fri 16-Jul-21 17:51:52

OK, as this is now Good Deed Bingo, I'm going to throw in: I mow my neighbour's lawns, even though she could pay someone to do it but won't because "they might have COVID". I collect same neighbour's prescriptions from the pharmacy because she doesnt drive and public transport "might have COVID". I put my neighbour's wheelie bins back for her (because she'd leave them out all bloody week if I didn't). I collect bread, twice a week, for 3 neighbours because none of them drive, they all think that COVID is on the bus and I'm going anyway.

First one to top that shouts I CLAIM GOOD DEED BINGO! and runs around waving a flag of their choice.

Kali2 Fri 16-Jul-21 17:38:46

Callimston 'It's only the ones in France who seem to keep a foot in both camps, so to speak, a home in France and a flat here as do several posters on here.
So they don't seem properly settled in either country, and I wonder why.''

Goodness, did you have the same geography teacher as Dominic Raab, perhaps?

Some people moved to France for the very reason they wanted to keep a foot in each camp. be close to family and grandchildren, and visit the country where they grew up, worked and loved... until they retired. And know they can jump in the car, a train or plane, to be home in a few hours if needed or desired.

Who would never ever xonsidered going to NZ or OZ, or even USA, for the very reason mentionned.

Kali2 Fri 16-Jul-21 17:34:11

Whitewavemark2

Kandinsky

Makes you wonder why 1000’s of migrants risk their lives every year trying to enter this country from France.

And your point?

Why ask- we know what her point is- she has made it so often before.